Posted on 02/04/2008 8:20:41 PM PST by JRochelle
PUUUUHHHHHHHHHHLEEEEEAAAASE
Don’t give me this CRAPOLA, especially when you don’t know me. I just telling you the facts of what kills you politically in the IW.
I know Mitt is unelectable in the S and Huckabee is unelectable in the IW.
Agreed. Huckleberry is McCain's wingman. If McCain picks the Huckster the republicans will have quite the ticket - "The Prick and the Hick."
Except Romney is anti gay marriage and pro traditional family and for the Federal Marriage Amendment, and prolife and not more antigun than G W B.
So you are attacking a candidate that doesnt exist.
better a convert than a traitor - Another Conservative for Mitt!
Romney is prolife.
better a convert than a traitor - Another Conservative for Mitt!
Yes, life is an important issue. Here is an important statement on it from a prolife supporter of ROmney:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWYwMzg3MzZkNDBmYzJhMGY5OTY5MjI3YTYxYzFkNDE=
There is no doubt that Governor Mitt Romney is running unabashedly as a pro-life and pro-family candidate for president and that he wants Roe v. Wade overturned. But his sincerity is being questioned because, as he has acknowledged, he has changed his mind on these issues. In 1994, in his race against Teddy Kennedy for the U.S. Senate, and in his 2002 race for governor of Massachusetts, Romney was pro-choice on abortion. So it is right to question him about the sincerity of his conversion.
Romney’s conversion was less abrupt than is often portrayed. In his 1994 Senate run, Romney was endorsed by Massachusetts Citizens for Life and kept their endorsement, even though he declared himself to be pro-choice, because he supported parental-consent laws, opposed taxpayer-funded abortion and mandatory abortion coverage under a national health insurance plan, and was against the Freedom of Choice Act, which would have codified Roe v. Wade by federal statute. In 1994, NARAL’s Kate Michelman pronounced him a phony pro-choicer. “Mitt Romney, stop pretending,” she demanded. “We need honesty in our public life, not your campaign of deception to conceal your anti-choice views,” she said. Some conservative Boston newspaper columnists view it similarly. As Jeff Jacoby of the Boston Globe put it: “Romney’s very public migration rightward over the last few years is . . . intended not to hide his real views but to liberate them. In 1994, Romney struck me as an extraordinarily bright, talented, and decent man — and a political neophyte who fell for the canard that the only way a conservative could win in Massachusetts was by passing for liberal.”
In 2001, Romney said, in a letter to the Salt Lake Tribute, that he believes that “abortion is the wrong choice, but under the law it is a choice people have.” And in the 2002 governor’s race, Romney made clear that “on a personal basis, I don’t favor abortion,” that he opposed lowering the age at which minors could obtain abortions without parental consent to 16, and that he supported a ban on partial-birth abortions, but that, as governor, he would “protect the right of a woman to choose under the law of the country and the laws of the commonwealth.” As one Boston commentator observed, Romney’s “abortion statements sound as much like someone trying to wrestle with the issue as someone trying to weasel his way out of it.”
Romney now says that he was wrong about abortion in those years, that his position has “evolved and deepened” as governor, and that he is “firmly pro-life.”
The evaluation of Romney’s conversion needs to be considered in light of the pro-life movement’s consistent effort over the years to educate, and thereby convert, people to the cause. The pro-life movement has aggressively promoted conversion and has achieved great success in doing so. Today, for the first time since Roe v. Wade, a majority of Americans identify themselves as pro-life, and many of these are converts, some who have even had abortions themselves. Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, both pro-life presidents, were converts. In 1967, Reagan, as governor of California, signed into law the nation’s most permissive abortion law, and, in 1980, Bush ran as an unabashedly pro-choice candidate. Both were unswerving in their support for the pro-life position as president, and Reagan’s ability and willingness to articulate the pro-life position was invaluable.
Yet how is the sincerity of a conversion to be measured? There are two salient considerations in this regard: first, some defining moment that prompted a change of heart; second, the fact that deeds speak louder than words. Romney’s conversion exhibits both. First, Romney has had a life-changing event. It was when he was governor and researchers were proposing embryonic cloning at Harvard. As he recounts it, one of the researchers said that there “wasn’t a moral issue, because . . . they destroy the embryos at 14 days.” Romney said that “it struck me that we have so cheapened the value of human life in this country through our Roe v. Wade decision that someone could think that there is no moral issue to have racks and racks of living human embryos and then destroying them at 14 days.”
This was not a trivial matter for Romney and his family. As he told the New York Times at the time, “My wife has MS and we would love for there to be a cure for her disease and for the diseases of others. But there is an ethical boundary that should not be crossed.”
And Romney, as governor, acted on these convictions. He vetoed an embryonic cloning bill; he vetoed a bill that would allow the “morning after pill” to be acquired without a prescription on the grounds that it is an abortifacient; he vetoed legislation which would have redefined Massachusetts longstanding definition of the beginning of human life from fertilization to implantation; and he fought to promote abstinence education in the classroom. One should not underestimate the tremendous political price that Governor Romney paid in Massachusetts for these acts. Both conviction and courage are necessary for effective pro-life leadership, and Romney, in office, displayed both.
These actions as governor have lead leaders of the most important social conservative groups in Massachusetts, including Massachusetts Citizens for Life, Massachusetts Family Institute, and the Knights of Columbus, to observe that, while previous comments by Romney “are, taken by themselves, obviously worrisome to social conservatives including ourselves, they do not dovetail with the actions of Governor Romney from 2003 until now — and those actions positively and demonstrably impacted the social climate of Massachusetts.” They conclude that Romney “demonstrat[ed] [his] solid social conservative credentials by undertaking” these actions, and has therefore “proven that he shares our values, as well as our determination to protect them.”
Many social conservatives do not share Romney’s Mormon faith, but his faith should be viewed by social conservatives as a good sign, not as a matter of concern. The Mormon religion, while having tenets that Christians do not share, is profoundly conservative in its support for life, family, and marriage. Thus, Romney’s religion reinforces, rather than conflicts with, his conversion. All people of faith believe that the best public officials are those with God, not man, at the center of their lives.
Orrin Hatch is a hero for me as he always stood for the defense of the unborn.
I know the LDS religion...If you are not...you are the enemy..
PING for truth! My feelings exactly.
“As soon as Romney falls down on his knees on national TV in front of God and everyone; and repents and begs for forgiveness for all the innocent young lives that were murdered in the womb on his watch after he ran on the pro-abortion platform, then I will consider it. If the man had any integrity at all, he’d resign and spend the rest of his life and the rest of his money trying to undo some of the wrong he’s done. But not as president. That office is reserved for honest men of the highest character and integrity.” Jim Robinson, founder of FreeRepublic
I guess that makes you a friggin lemming...go away until you get an education.
what is his recent record on gays, guns and abortion? You know, he was governor right before he decided to run for president.
Don’t be so gullible and believe him just because he says exactly what you want to hear. His actual voting record is pro-abortion, pro-socialized medicine, anti-gun and pro-gay.
These issues are deal breakers for me and that’s why I was against Rudy even though he turned my city around. But at least Rudy didn’t pretend to be something that he never was.
BUMP
Some endorsements FYI.
Former NRA Executive Craig Sandler Endorses Governor Mitt Romney For President
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Craig_Sandler
Colorado Attorney General John Suthers Endorses Governor Mitt Romney
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/CO_Attorney_General
Come on JRochelle. You’ve had a chip against us Mormons for a very long time here on this forum. The fact of the matter is if Romney wasn’t a Mormon, you would be one of his fervent supporters.
Why deny the fact a sizable portion of Huckabee’s supporters are religious bigots who would rather see the US collapse under leftist rule than vote for a conservative Mormon?
We both know an enormous percentage of Evangelicals loath Mormons and believe we are all going to hell for it. Mormons, with our belief in tiered heavens and the nonpermanence of hell, NEVER act the same way by blithely condemning unbelievers to an eternity of torture.
What arrogance. What a disgusting behavior. I’m sure your “god” is pleased.
Ahem, its the Huck followers who are the lemmings.
Maybe Eric can school *you* in Huckabee’s left wing political positions.
Hey numbnuts, you are exhibit number one why Huckabee is totally unelectable in about 6 of the Intermountainwest states.
Tatoo this across your forehead or somewhere convenient!
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