Insanity on FR (Vanity)

2/2/08 | tomnbeverly

[tomnbeverly]

The Insanity that has taken over on this forum, when it comes to the potential GOP nominees, is bordering on Psychotic.

1. John McCain and Mitt Romney are both good and decent men.

2. Either one being the GOP nominee is a far cry better then the Surrender Monkeys on the other side.

I only ask that we do not stray into that Liberal arena of Personal destruction. I have listened to Sean and Rush and I blame them for engaging this tactic in our party.

We should never have to tear one candidates record down to promote the other. For that reason alone Ronald Reagan would be turning over in his grave.

[Perdogg]

John Fund has corrected himself on Mark Levin and Hugh Hewitt. He said what he wrote was taken out of context. This left Mark speechless.

[tomnbeverly]

Thank you for posting that.. I was just going to inform bronxboy that his point was supposition and heresay... and then ask him in turn how does Romney get a pass on evolving his abortion view... I mean apparently to get the Conservative vote you better be 100 percent pure...Right?

Perdogg you made the point of my entire post.. many are lemmings being driven off a cliff by Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh..

[bronxboy]

After McCain joined the gang of 14 which made certain some of the most qualified conservative nominees never got a vote, do you still believe McCain will choose conservative justices. He will/has sacrificed conservatism on the alter of political expediency.

[epow]

However, he is fit to be president even ideologically wrong

I'm not so sure about Mitt's overall fitness for the job, but at least he APPEARS to take criticism from conservatives seriously and makes an honest attempt to satisfy their concerns. That may be just a latent talent for acting showing through, but it seems to be authentic anyway.

OTOH, McNutt's lips say one thing while his eyes, manner of speech, and overall body language give him away by saying the opposite. I'm afraid that since he's already on the verge of being too old for the office he may not be planning on a second term. Therefore, he knows that he can do whatever he wants in his first and only term without concern for needing our votes to win a second term. Given his volcanic temper and his obvious mental/emotional instability, a possible one-term mindset makes him a scary candidate for Commander in Chief of US armed forces AFAIC.

[PA-RIVER]

Did you see the Dem Debate?

They are gleeful that Mitt Romney is all but out of the race, and they now mock him.

If McCain takes it this Tuesday, Hillary is our next president. It is that simple.

This is John McCains last effort to destroy the GOP, and he is succeeding brilliantly.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

>Wow that hurt...that EVIL PROFIT WORD. Won me over with that one. Of course the Federal Governments economic health is more important that the evil private sector. Follow up with EXXON and we will all convert to moderates. (sarcasm ON)

Profit is great, unless it is your only core conviction... like Mitt. Everything else he believes is open to adjustment as needed.

[bronxboy]

Do you really believe McCain would appoint conservative justices which would surely overturn McCain-Feingold? Dream on...

[tomnbeverly]

Sean Hannity is that you ... LOL

[redgirlinabluestate]

Bingo! It was going to be Mitt Romney against the Establishment the whole time. It would have been helpful if everyone could have seen it sooner.

[bronxboy]

I wish...Sean must be worth millions.

[tomnbeverly]

So your position is if McCain wins the GOP nomination... That destroys the GOP because we all lose?

How insane is that!!

[bronxboy]

I have voted Repub in every election since my conversion from being a blind Dem to a Conservative Repub (thanks to Rush). I can not force myself to vote for McCain. I didn’t agree with Bush, but I liked him. I can’t stand McCain. It breaks my heart to see the Republicans pushing conservatives out of the party. I don’t see the Repubs winning this year. It’s a Dole year. He was a good guy, the choice of the Repub elite also, but was never going to win. McCain is a horrible person, and he will never win-too old and too liberal.

[Vision Thing]

LOL, if tomnbeverly thinks that you’re Sean Hannity because you don’t like mccain, then we can throw this tactic back in tombeverly’s face.

Hey tomnbeverly: are you john mccain disguising yourself as a FReeper. With your focus on insanity, it’s a bit of projection on your part to see it in everyone else.

[redgirlinabluestate]

Hey, not so fast. Mitt just won in Maine, although the MSM won't talk about it and he's closing in on Georgia and either tied or leading in California depending on what poll you look at. It's not over yet!

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2008/02/zogby-romney-leads-mccain-by-37-34-in.html
Zogby: Romney leads McCain by 37-34 in CA

[icwhatudo]

Regardless of who you support, make sure to vote in the new FR poll:

"Which GOP presidential hopeful do you want to see win the most delegates on Super Tuesday?"

Member Opinion
Mitt Romney	76.4%		833
Ron Paul	10.7%		117
Mike Huckabee	8.1%		88
John McCain	4.8%		52
	100.0%		1,090

[bronxboy]

Good one...although I don’t know if he is condescending enough to be McCain.

[airborne]

I haven’t seen so much pimping for one guy since the Rudy-bots went insane.

[Vision Thing]

tomnbeverly may not be as condescending as mccain, but he/she does like to insult those who disagree with him/her. Notice his/her use of the word “lemming” to describe those who disagree with him/her.

[khnyny]

That’s true. Conservatives are just a “voting block” now, to be manipulated for the desired outcome.

Mary Matalin on MTP, just said that Romney would have won SC and other key states if Huckabee was not in the race. She had lots to say, but basically, Huckabee is the spoiler. He splits the conservative vote. Not to toot my horn, but ok, I will. I’ve been saying the same thing for a long time.:)

We’ve been had.

[kabar]

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· Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million.

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