Posted on 02/03/2008 4:58:36 AM PST by tomnbeverly
The Insanity that has taken over on this forum, when it comes to the potential GOP nominees, is bordering on Psychotic.
1. John McCain and Mitt Romney are both good and decent men.
2. Either one being the GOP nominee is a far cry better then the Surrender Monkeys on the other side.
I only ask that we do not stray into that Liberal arena of Personal destruction. I have listened to Sean and Rush and I blame them for engaging this tactic in our party.
We should never have to tear one candidates record down to promote the other. For that reason alone Ronald Reagan would be turning over in his grave.
I can't remember, is "tearing down" a violation of McCain-Feingold?
What do you mean "if" conservatives lose control of the party? We only had brief control during the Reagan era, and we lost it when RR's last term ended and the northeastern bluebloods took over again.
My main problem with McNutt is not necessarily his modertate/liberal stance. I think he would act more favorably than either Democrat would on most issues that concern me, although that isn't saying much. It's his mental and emotional instability that worries me most. He's already highly irrational and unstable, and no one can say how many more little gray cells in his noggin have to die before he becomes certifiably insane. Maybe it's because of some brainwashing technique the North Vietnamese used on him, or maybe it runs in his family. But whatever the cause, it's not what I want to see in a man sitting behind the Oval Office desk.
Nope. Because I don't like Romney either. He's a RINO too.
However, he is fit to be president even ideologically wrong.
No on judges this is what he said today...
“In a series of rallies in conservative southern states, McCain touted 24 years of voting “to protect the life of the unborn,” promised to only appoint conservative judges who “strictly interpret the constitution” and vowed to “never surrender” in the war on terror and to pursue Osama bin Laden to “the gates of hell.”
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNtBNmRdiXrD54Bpek9r9UUzRh5w
You also need to do some research on what a psychosis is, how it is formed, its signs, and how to diagnosis a psychosis.
What is happening here is not psychotic. It is passionate debate.
Thank God there is still 20-30% of America on both sides of the line who still hold passionately to their beliefs. If we didn’t, this country would go the way of the Iron-Curtain countries. We would be subverted from within by tyrannical politicians and then overcome from without. While I disagree with the Left completely regarding issues, I'm glad they're passionate. They keep the conservatives rallied and fighting and this, in-turn, forces public attention on those issues that could make or break our country, such as illegal immigration. Ironically, the left and right joined together on that issue and we worked together to defeat amnesty.
The argument per se is justified. Do you believe that Hillary’s tears were real or crocodile tears? Well, if you believe that it is valid to question whether her tears were real or were meant to mislead and manipulate, then you should agree that this argument is worth the effort. We are being told that McCain is the most conservative, that he is the most electable, and will be the best President if elected. Others passionately disagree. Part of defending your candidate is exposing the flaws of your opponent. It’s called ‘compare and contrast’ and we all wrote a hundred essays of this type in our schooling. We did so because ‘compare and contrast’ is one of Socrates’ methods of dialectics and is very effective in determining what is true and what is false. It’s how he exposed the Sophists.
You know what Truman said.
I am ashamed to say, I voted for Frank Lautenberg when I cast my vote for Ron Reagan back in 1980.
I was an uniformed voter, a Democrat. But at least I knew Reagan had to beat Carter. I couldn’t find a job!
OK glad you clarified that... So you don’t like Romney but you are voting for him because you hate McCain...
“Sorry, I will NEVER vote for John McCain. He is a mean-spirited, backstabbing, egotistical little man. He is not fit to command. If the frightened old Rockefeller blue-bloods in the Republican party nominate this sorry excuse for a candidate, then to paraphrase Reagan, I did not leave the Republican party, the Republican party left me.”
Ditto for Romney! Jelly-fish-spined plastic candidate with
no core beliefs beyond pragmatism - and of course profit.
Be good for them to remind the public of that because that'll solidify his base of support among the "divorced" population and most likely among Men, Dem and Rep, alike!
Newt as a candidate would not be the same as Newt, the Speaker of the House being reminded of his giraffe analogy. He'd toss it back at them.
No Thanks, Voting for a Nutso With an "L" identifier is no different than voting for a Nutso with an "R" identifier. (Or a "D" identifier.)
Not gonna do any of them.
Right now my best guess is when it comes time to vote in the general I will be writing in "None of the Above"
The Republican Party has pi$$ed on us for too long. When will you say “ENOUGH!” That’s going to take some stones. I’ve got them. Do you?
Unless and until we refuse to vote for the anointed candidate, they will continue to foist this cr@p on us.
He would not choose such justices himself. He is on record as saying this. Also, McCain and Graham made sure that some fine conservate nominees never had a chance.
What if Thompson, Hunter, or Tancredo were his running mate?
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Are you suggesting the McKerry’s EGO will pick a running mate that is:
1. smarter than him.
2. from the Conservative base he treats like plantation slaves.
EGO always wins, and Johnny will not pick someone who opposes most of his core beliefs. By the way, which real conservative will sell out his values to support a president with McLames values. To be VP??????
Half right.
" 2. Either one being the GOP nominee is a far cry better then the Surrender Monkeys on the other side."
All we have are McCain's promises about what he's going to do on the war and that and $4 will buy you a coffee at Starbucks. We do know that McCain has tremendously damaged this country with all his cr*p about torture and water-boarding. For the first time in history, McCain wants to give the enemy access to American courts and Constitutional rights. McInsane, indeed.
Oh, let's not forget, he'll be even worse than Bush on securing the border from terrorists, criminal gangs and ordinary illegal aliens. How's that record good for national security?
"I only ask that we do not stray into that Liberal arena of Personal destruction. I have listened to Sean and Rush and I blame them for engaging this tactic in our party."
McCain takes every disagreement with him, as a personal attack, he then accuses everyone else of being a racist, a bigot, evil, putting profits before patriotism, Gemeinnutz vor Eigennutz. McCain isn't some voice on the radio, he's been a major force in national politics for 2 decades. Rush and Hannity do not have the power to introduce anything into the party. Again, you seem to agree with McCain that any criticism of him is a personal attack. McCain does NOT have the temperament to be President. Let's pray we don't have to find that out after he's elected, like people did with Bill Clinton. McCain is the GOP's Bill Clinton.
"We should never have to tear one candidates record down to promote the other. For that reason alone Ronald Reagan would be turning over in his grave."
Again, you have SMS, Selective Memory Syndrome. Before he was President, Reagan went on a tear about giving away the Panama Canal. He tore down everyone's record, who disagreed with him. The whole point of a campaign is to attack the opponent's record.
You sound just like those McCainiacs who are telling people to shut up. Hmmm, shut up about politics...sound familiar, try McCain-Feingold and the shredding of the 1st Amendment.
Right Passionate debate I agree... but there is a politics of personal destruction on this forum.. read the posts.. Is John McCain insane? nuts? Liberal? Too Old? Senile? Do any of these posters know him personally? I tend to think not but yet they judge him personally not on his policy.
Where is the debate on his record compared and contrasted to Romney’s?
i.e., McCain gets lambasted for McCain-Kennedy legislation.. rightly so... but is Romney better what was his position prior to Amnesty becoming a Conservative 4 letter word...
My argument is people are being told by Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh not to like McCain because he isn’t the true Conservative... but Romney gets a pass on all his flip flops and non-Conservative stands... Why? T
Thats why for those that I believe fell into that crap trap I call them Lemmings...
For me personally its all about the Islamic Jihad against the U.S. and our military. McCain was for the surge in Iraq before it was popular... Romney kind of wishy washy on that .. Conviction tells me much about character and if you believe that in these times we face and existential threat from the Radical Islamists then Conviction becomes the most important charcter in a candidate...
Maybe he'll go courting Kerry again!!
Maybe just playing the “Guess who won’t be down for breakfast” lottery?
Is he back from the dead, running as a dark horse? I'll vote for him.
Wow, you mean in an election year, he has seen the light on judges? See below.
Now McCain is lying about his real attitude toward United States Supreme Court Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr.
Wall Street Journal’s John Fund understated when he recently wrote: “recently, Mr. McCain has told conservatives he would be happy to appoint the likes of Chief Justice John Roberts to the Supreme Court. But he indicated he might draw the line on a Samuel Alito, because ‘he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.’”
McCain really said, privately, that he would NOT nominate a person like Justice Alito.
The truth about that is out, and McCain is furious about that...and lying.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/30537.html
and of course profit.
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Wow that hurt...that EVIL PROFIT WORD. Won me over with that one. Of course the Federal Governments economic health is more important that the evil private sector. Follow up with EXXON and we will all convert to moderates. (sarcasm ON)
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