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Crackup? Not So Fast.(Karl Rove)
Newsweek ^ | Feb 11, 2008 Issue | Karl Rove

Posted on 02/02/2008 1:57:13 PM PST by vietvet67

"We are at the end of the Reagan era." Or, at least, that is the claim of voices as diverse as Newt Gingrich and Ed Rollins on the right and Sen. Chuck Schumer and pollster Stanley Greenberg on the left. It is true the Republican Party is having difficulty retooling its message for the 21st century. But so is the Democratic Party.

Every presidential election is about change, and no more so than at the end of a two-term president's time in the White House. Parties have to constantly update themselves if they hope to remain relevant. The difficulty for both Republicans and Democrats is that our political system is at a point where more than the normal amount of party growth and development is needed. Both parties are suffering the consequences of seeing substantial parts of their 20th-century agendas adopted; both parties are struggling to fashion new answers to the new challenges of a young century.

But that's not to say that the Reagan legacy is exhausted. Ronald Reagan's legacy was not simply that he was "a campaigner and orator of uncommon skill," as Don Campbell argued last week in USA Today. President Reagan's gifts to the Republican Party were ideas: growing the economy through tax cuts, limiting government's size, forcefully confronting totalitarian threats, making human rights a centerpiece of America's foreign policy, respecting unborn human life, empowering the individual with more freedom. Those ideas endure. They give Republicans a philosophical foundation on which to build. The Reagan coalition has a natural desire to stick together. Fiscal, defense and values conservatives have more in common with each other than with any major element of the Democratic Party's leadership.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; edrollins; gingrich; karlrove; rove
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1 posted on 02/02/2008 1:57:16 PM PST by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67
President Reagan's gifts to the Republican Party were ideas: growing the economy through tax cuts, limiting government's size, forcefully confronting totalitarian threats, making human rights a centerpiece of America's foreign policy, respecting unborn human life, empowering the individual with more freedom.

EXACTLY!!

2 posted on 02/02/2008 1:58:47 PM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: vietvet67

Lets not forget that Reagan also protected American industry from unfair offshore trade practices.


3 posted on 02/02/2008 1:59:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: Tribune7

Karl Rove for president!


4 posted on 02/02/2008 2:01:20 PM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther

Only if he brings his weather machine with him!!!!!


5 posted on 02/02/2008 2:03:00 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Thompson/Hunter 08)
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To: vietvet67

Could he just say that in Spanish.


6 posted on 02/02/2008 2:03:45 PM PST by donna (Ah, the hypocrisy of hating John McCain but loving Rudy Giuliani.)
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To: vietvet67
Democrats have a similar philosophical storehouse in the ideas of FDR and LBJ. Both expanded the size and scope of the federal government and saw it in almost an entirely positive light: as an agent of economic redistribution from the rich to the less affluent, as a provider to the poor and the disabled and as an enforcer of equal rights and equal justice.

How can he write this with a straight pen? The federal govt. grew at a faster rate under Bush/Rove than any other time in recent history.

7 posted on 02/02/2008 2:13:58 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: vietvet67
Every presidential election is about change, and no more so than at the end of a two-term president's time in the White House. Parties have to constantly update themselves if they hope to remain relevant. The difficulty for both Republicans and Democrats is that our political system is at a point where more than the normal amount of party growth and development is needed. Both parties are suffering the consequences of seeing substantial parts of their 20th-century agendas adopted; both parties are struggling to fashion new answers to the new challenges of a young century.

Dead on right. Whatever happens in the elections this time (and it doesn't look good for us now), conservatism will be a force. It does need to be updated, though. We've been pushing the same buttons, the same way for too long. Newt's been on talking about this for a while. We have to show how enduring principles are relevant. Otherwise, in 50 years we'll end up sounding like Teddy Kennedy does now when he talks about Camelot and the Great Society.

President Reagan's gifts to the Republican Party were ideas: growing the economy through tax cuts, limiting government's size, forcefully confronting totalitarian threats, making human rights a centerpiece of America's foreign policy, respecting unborn human life, empowering the individual with more freedom. Those ideas endure. They give Republicans a philosophical foundation on which to build. The Reagan coalition has a natural desire to stick together. Fiscal, defense and values conservatives have more in common with each other than with any major element of the Democratic Party's leadership.

Conservative principles are more in line with nature than liberalism. There will thus always be an appeal to conservatism in the Reagan mold.

8 posted on 02/02/2008 2:18:54 PM PST by ishmac
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To: Tribune7
ditto...

President Reagan's gifts to the Republican Party were ideas: growing the economy through tax cuts, limiting government's size, forcefully confronting totalitarian threats, making human rights a centerpiece of America's foreign policy, respecting unborn human life, empowering the individual with more freedom.

9 posted on 02/02/2008 2:22:16 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: vietvet67

It’s a little more than retooling your 21st century thinking.

The conservatives have been robbed of our choice of candidates and our vote. The candidates have already been selected for us.


10 posted on 02/02/2008 2:22:55 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: vietvet67

The last few presidential election margins have been razor thin. Rove and Bush’s importing of 20 million new Democrat voter through amnesty will kill the Republican Party faster than any other single thing.


11 posted on 02/02/2008 2:29:53 PM PST by RJL (Mexico must have incriminating photos of Bush from his drinking days.)
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To: vietvet67
"We are at the end of the Reagan era."

I'd say the Reagan era ended with the nomination of George W. Bush. :(

12 posted on 02/02/2008 2:34:16 PM PST by Sloth (I feel real bad for deaf people, cause they have no way of knowing when microwave popcorn is done.)
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The Democratic House and Senate have plummeted to the poorest congressional approval ratings in history.

Hehe. In the midst of all this, the Dem congress has infuriated their base by not giving them ANYTHING on the war...the reason they were elected.

Even if McCain gets into the Oval conservatives might be very happy with the congress they get next time around when much of this congress gets thrown out.

13 posted on 02/02/2008 2:36:38 PM PST by what's up
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To: Sloth

If you want to go that route, I’d say it ended in 1988, not 2000. 2000 was just more of the same.


14 posted on 02/02/2008 2:43:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McCain: RNC will adore him. Get ready for McCain day in photos & Prayer threads. Oh the humanities!)
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To: vietvet67
Rove's noise doesn't even rise to level where it can be called sophistry. Rove is basically saying that the Republican Party he has molded is still to the right of the Democrat Party.

There is no end point for how far they are willing to go to the left. They just want to stay one tick to the right of the Democrats all the way down to the bottom of the abyss.

15 posted on 02/02/2008 2:46:00 PM PST by Perchant
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To: NoGrayZone

LOL...make the global warming crowd extinct?

GOOD START!


16 posted on 02/02/2008 2:53:51 PM PST by tpanther
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To: DoughtyOne
"If you want to go that route, I’d say it ended in 1988, not 2000."


I agree, but would add that it had a short, one year revival after the 1994 elections.
17 posted on 02/02/2008 3:38:09 PM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777

Good point Rob. I might even say two years.


18 posted on 02/02/2008 3:41:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McCain: RNC will adore him. Get ready for McCain day in photos & Prayer threads. Oh the humanities!)
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To: DoughtyOne
If you want to go that route, I’d say it ended in 1988, not 2000.

It seems to me that the 1994 GOP congressional successes (Newt, Contract w/ America, etc.) would arguably be still in the spirit of Reagan.

19 posted on 02/02/2008 3:42:16 PM PST by Sloth (I feel real bad for deaf people, cause they have no way of knowing when microwave popcorn is done.)
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Ah, I see Rob already made that point.


20 posted on 02/02/2008 3:43:08 PM PST by Sloth (I feel real bad for deaf people, cause they have no way of knowing when microwave popcorn is done.)
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