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Dr. Dobson: I Will Never Vote for McCain
NewsMax ^ | February 1, 2008

Posted on 02/01/2008 2:07:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

While John McCain has risen to the top of the heap among contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson remains adamant that he will not support McCain’s bid for the White House.

Dobson, one of the nation’s most influential evangelical Christians, declared more than a year ago that he wouldn't support McCain under any circumstances, saying McCain didn't support traditional marriage values.

A Dobson spokesman told the New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick Wednesday that he stood by that position, and as a matter of conscience could never vote for the Arizona Senator.

According to the paper, Dobson is joined by a slew of other prominent conservatives who oppose McCain on a number of issues:

Talk radio host Mark Levin urged visitors to the National Review’s Web site to “rally for Romney” to ward off a McCain win, saying: “Conservatives need to act now, before it is too late.”

Talker Rush Limbaugh told listeners on Thursday: “McCain is in a lot of these places not actually the Republican candidate. He is the candidate of enough Republicans, but [also] independents and moderates and probably even some liberals.”

Pat Toomey, president of the anti-tax organization Club for Growth, said in comments reported by the New York Times: “I have yet to see McCain make any attempts to reach out to free market conservatives.”

Conservatives fault McCain for voting against President Bush’s tax cuts and a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, and for supporting embryonic stem cell research, looser immigration rules and stricter environmental regulations.

Conservatives were particularly irked when McCain made a deal with Democrats to break a deadlock on judicial nominations, according to the Times.

Anger over that compromise was rekindled this week when Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund wrote that McCain had privately criticized Bush’s Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito because “he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.” The McCain campaign denied that report.

Following McCain successes in early primary states, however, other conservatives are beginning to warm up to his campaign:

Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, who previously opposed a McCain nomination, said: “He has moved in the right direction strongly and forcefully on taxes.”

Former McCain foe Tony Perkins, a prominent Christian conservative, told the Times: “I have no residual issue with John McCain,” adding the candidate needed to “better communicate” his stand on social issues.

Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention, agreed, noting that McCain “is strongly pro-life.” He said: “When I hear Rush Limbaugh say that a McCain nomination would destroy the Republican Party, what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Colorado
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, little does he know a vote for Huck is a vote for McCain....so in a sense he IS voting for McCain. LOL


41 posted on 02/01/2008 2:22:13 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Dead Dog

Few here will admit it, but Fred wasn’t all that great either. I supported him, but that was despite some problems I had with him.


42 posted on 02/01/2008 2:22:25 PM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention, agreed, noting that McCain “is strongly pro-life.” He said: “When I hear Rush Limbaugh say that a McCain nomination would destroy the Republican Party, what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’””

Good words from the nominal head of the SBC.


43 posted on 02/01/2008 2:22:36 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After attacking Fred`s faith, Dobson has zero credibility left.


44 posted on 02/01/2008 2:23:47 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Willard, conservatives don't vote for liberals. GO NOBODY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a screwed-up primary. Who to believe? Some people say one thing, others say the opposite?


45 posted on 02/01/2008 2:24:19 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Jim Noble; rintense
Feel free to hate Dr. Dobson all you want.

Just remember. It was Christian Evangelicals that sent a Republican to the WH in 2000 and 2004.

And if Dobson and the millions of Christians who listen to him are ignored next November?

Hail to the Beast.....

46 posted on 02/01/2008 2:24:51 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

There is no f’ing way McCain will lose next Tuesday.

Romney will go down in flames, and it is incredibly sad.

The single reason why McCain will win is Huckabee.

His being in the race keeps Romney from being on top.


47 posted on 02/01/2008 2:25:13 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Squidpup

You need some fantasy upgrades . Try reading Women Woman comics just before retiring .


48 posted on 02/01/2008 2:25:27 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: elizabetty
But if certain other people moved right on certain issues YEARS ago they are called Flip Flopper.

Ain't it amazin' how some people can change their positions and be called a "principled hero" yet others who change even less are called "flip flop liberals" or whatever the slam some are now calling Mitt Romney.

49 posted on 02/01/2008 2:26:12 PM PST by Edit35
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To: Responsibility2nd

And those same evangelicals will give the nod to McCain by voting for Huckabee. We’re screwed either way with Hillary or McCain/Huckabee.


50 posted on 02/01/2008 2:26:52 PM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: highball
Well, Dobson, you had a chance to vote for a principled conservative. You decided it’d be more fun to slam him for not kissing your ring.

EXACTLY what I was thinking!!! Who the heck made Dobson king-maker anyway??

Dobson, you were all too quick to stop on the one person who could have stood up for a fair chance to knock down Roe v. Wade...I'll never listen to you with any amount of respect now...go back to your congregation and preach to them....

51 posted on 02/01/2008 2:27:40 PM PST by Alkhin (Hope looks beyond the bounds of time...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>>>>>I don’t believe that Dobson is a minister ..

You are correct on all counts.

Dobson has also showed poor judgment in his opposition to Fred. Plain dumb!

52 posted on 02/01/2008 2:27:48 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Willard, conservatives don't vote for liberals. GO NOBODY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, but when Dobson shot FDT up, Dobson lost all relevance, in my book.


53 posted on 02/01/2008 2:27:51 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Former FredHead, now a Mittbot.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

“FDT wanted to overturn Roe v. Wade, which WOULD be achievable with another SCOTUS justice or two. But “Focusing” on a Human Life Amendment as the only goal is counter-productive”

Bears repeating. FDT & Rudy were our best two bets for SCOTUS appointees.


54 posted on 02/01/2008 2:28:12 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Forced charity is an oxymoron)
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To: egginanest
Kiss off Dobson. I’m about up to HERE with the Christain Coalition.....

Then what are you doing here? If you feel that way you obviously belong at Democrats Unglued or Daily Kook not a Conservative website.

55 posted on 02/01/2008 2:28:33 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Do the Baptists consider EVERY OTHER denomination to be a cult?!

Yes apparently. I even seen a Baptist Church that says Catholics are a cult and non-Christian.

56 posted on 02/01/2008 2:28:51 PM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Politicalmom

After all Dobson’s years and years of influence, it comes down to this moment in history.

He may have single handedly thwarted the one conservative who could have led the free world through this “perilous fight.”


57 posted on 02/01/2008 2:28:57 PM PST by b9
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To: TexanToTheCore

“Strongly pro-life”?

____________________________

I wouldn’t go THAT far........

JOHN MCCAIN
Voting Record
Supports repealing Roe v. Wade. (May 2007)
Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)
Rated 75% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)


58 posted on 02/01/2008 2:29:09 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention, agreed, noting that McCain “is strongly pro-life.” “

This man is NUTS, or he has no clue, maybe he reads his own press clippings. Reading your own press clippings has been shown to cause dementia. McCain is only pro-life if it’s not an American life. I am beginning to think the pro-life crowd is smoking funny weed and are willing to turn this country into a fascist state over one issue. It looks like they have all gone dumbocrat, and don’t believe in the Constitution. BEWARE...HE WILL TURN ON YOU ONCE YOU HAVE SERVED YOUR PURPOSE.


59 posted on 02/01/2008 2:29:33 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: Politicalmom

I wholeheartedly agree and BTTT :)


60 posted on 02/01/2008 2:29:37 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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