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Posted on 02/01/2008 2:07:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
While John McCain has risen to the top of the heap among contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson remains adamant that he will not support McCain’s bid for the White House.
Dobson, one of the nation’s most influential evangelical Christians, declared more than a year ago that he wouldn't support McCain under any circumstances, saying McCain didn't support traditional marriage values.
A Dobson spokesman told the New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick Wednesday that he stood by that position, and as a matter of conscience could never vote for the Arizona Senator.
According to the paper, Dobson is joined by a slew of other prominent conservatives who oppose McCain on a number of issues:
Talk radio host Mark Levin urged visitors to the National Review’s Web site to “rally for Romney” to ward off a McCain win, saying: “Conservatives need to act now, before it is too late.”
Talker Rush Limbaugh told listeners on Thursday: “McCain is in a lot of these places not actually the Republican candidate. He is the candidate of enough Republicans, but [also] independents and moderates and probably even some liberals.”
Pat Toomey, president of the anti-tax organization Club for Growth, said in comments reported by the New York Times: “I have yet to see McCain make any attempts to reach out to free market conservatives.”
Conservatives fault McCain for voting against President Bush’s tax cuts and a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, and for supporting embryonic stem cell research, looser immigration rules and stricter environmental regulations.
Conservatives were particularly irked when McCain made a deal with Democrats to break a deadlock on judicial nominations, according to the Times.
Anger over that compromise was rekindled this week when Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund wrote that McCain had privately criticized Bush’s Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito because “he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.” The McCain campaign denied that report.
Following McCain successes in early primary states, however, other conservatives are beginning to warm up to his campaign:
Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, who previously opposed a McCain nomination, said: “He has moved in the right direction strongly and forcefully on taxes.”
Former McCain foe Tony Perkins, a prominent Christian conservative, told the Times: “I have no residual issue with John McCain,” adding the candidate needed to “better communicate” his stand on social issues.
Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention, agreed, noting that McCain “is strongly pro-life.” He said: “When I hear Rush Limbaugh say that a McCain nomination would destroy the Republican Party, what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’”
I think you are confusing me with someone else. I don’t know that I have really made a comment about Huckabee. I probably said that he is not my candidate and certainly don’t believe he is electable. If I made nasty comments about him, I’d like to see them so I can respond.
I can appreciate your response. McCain has been her willing servant doing the punching and body slams that puts her in the position she now holds. Now why has he not called you and given you the perfect platform to expose the real Hillary? He after all was making the claim he was rooting out dirty money from campaigns, why not require him to put up or shut up?
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I apologize - you’re probably the ONLY one that hasn’t attacked Huckabee - don’t know why I thought you were one of them ...
I met in Washington DC with a PI who was hired cause trouble for Kathleen Willey just before testifying in the Jones case. We all know what Pellicano and others have done to those who posed a threat to Clinton’s power. I have talked to Juanita Broaddrick and we have emailed many times. A rapist and rape enabler have gotten away with it. I’ve spent time with LD Brown and other Arkansas troopers. I’ve discussed Clinton’s cocaine use with witnesses. We watched Bill Clinton allow the transfer of missile technology to China. We watched her use the IRS to go after enemies. In the Peter Paul case, I have watched as she compromised all three brances of the government. There really are a bunch of dead bodies who got in the Clintons way. The Clintons are a political Mafia. They are a criminal enterprise. I am astounded with all we know on this forum that some seem to have forgotten those horrible eight years that did incalculable damage to our country. She will do whatever she wants and who will stop her? No one. What, is someone going to impeach her? It would be like nothing we have ever before seen. If she is elected, I am literally going to go move and go into hiding.
No problem. I put so much info on here that I don’t remember everything.
You’ve posted a total of 5,967 threads and 69,340 replies.
Good grief. I need to get a life. :)
No, he's not. He's not strongly anything, except strongly pro-McCain. If he is President, he will do zip, zero, nada, nothing to advance the pro-life cause. You can bet the house on it.
Ditto.
I am hearing lots of conservatives saying that. We need to come up with a third party protest vote candidate,if Mr Amnesty gets the nomination!
Not so.
The last time the conservatives sat out on the limp wristed Republican party, we ended up with 8 years of Clinton. We waited and ended up with Bush, of whom has done an admirable ( not perfect) job of governing, but still showed some liberal tendencies.
This time around we conservatives are not going to be told to support the "party" favorite, just because they think he's the only one who can beat Hillary. Besides, I think Ann is correct when she says Hillary's more conservative than McCain!
The fact that the Conservatives make up the largest part of the Republican base,makes no difference to the power brokers within the party, because they think that we will vote for anyone just to stop Hillary. WHY?
Other than his stint in a POW Camp, and the fact he might be plumbed a little differently; how is he any better than Hillary?
Well I say if the Republicans want to be liberal, then they can do it without my support. I too may vote for the Democrat nominee if McCain wins the Republican nomination, because if I have to vote for a liberal, at least I'll vote for one who's not trying to convince me they're a conservative.
What does "in my book" mean? If Dobson is irrelevant, then he couldn't take down Thompson. If he is relevant than Thomopson's fate, regardless of who caused it, does not make Dobson irrelevant.
I guess it easier for you guys to blame Dobson than to blame Fred. I don't think that many of the people who are blasting Dobson ever listened to or liked him to begin with.
Moderates have pushed conservatives to hold their noses and vote for a moderate election after election. We're told if we don't get behind the candidate they want, we will be responsible for putting a democrat in. When do we get our turn? When are they going to reciprocate? It's time they get behind a conservative candidate that we can, with a clear conscious, vote for.
No you’re not. There’s no such thing as hell or heaven.
Where did I say that? But if he or anybody that has a following, goes on national TV and does something I disagree with, I do have every constitutional right to criticize and disagree with those remarks.
Lookit, if nothing else Dobson demonstrated he either is short-sighted or way in over his head in terms of politics. Or both. That in itself is enough reason to listen very cautiously from here on out. And if he, and apparently some of his followers, can't take the heat of analysis and criticism over remarks that showed poor judgement and lead to poor consequences, intended or not, perhaps they'd best get out of the kitchen for a while. Sheesh.
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>>According to the paper, Dobson is joined by a slew of other prominent conservatives who oppose McCain on a number of issues:<<
Well that part is surely true. I just have a hard time believe that there people will really vote for Hillary. Even listening to Ann Coulter, I got the impression she was trying to influence the vote on Super Tuesday... I just cannot wrap myself around a reality where Ann Coulter campaigns for Hillary Clinton.
Now, Dobson, on the other hand would like to run for President... he may really oppose the Republican nominee and damn the consequences.
I don't know Dobson personally, but I have to think he takes the heat of analysis and criticisms gracefully. By "some of his followers can't," I can only assume you are directing your comments to me, fofl. But you are quite wrong. I don't listen to Dobson, don't go to his website, don't get mail from his organization. It is typical of those who are supporting a particular candidate that was once criticized (yes, that would be you: Dobson criticized YOUR past favored candidate, being Thompson) to attack the messenger. I suggest if YOU can't take the heat, you stay out of the kitchen.
Dobson has every right to speak his mind, wherever and whenever he chooses. It is for this very reason that he is involved in matters political concerning this country. As a Christian man, he sees the denigration of it at every turn and I have no doubt he is as concerned as most awake Christians about the real threat of globalism. It is antithetical to God's wish. Thompson is and was a globalist.
Kudos to Dobson for making people aware of particular candidates who may well be wolves in sheep's clothing. He's doing exactly what God would call his leaders to do: read His word, discern and understand, and inform and guide his followers accordingly. A godly Christian leader is called to do nothing different.
Dobson is likely more concerned about the consequences had he remained mute speaking out against both Thompson and McCain (and various others) when he has been, through God's grace, enabled and directed to speak out to such a large audience. He answers to God, not you, nor to followers of other candidates. Contrary to your commentary, Dobson has demonstrated greater insight into things about Thompson than apparently you have.
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