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Commentary: Doing away with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) (Replacing With The Fair Tax)
helium.com ^ | Ken Hoagland

Posted on 02/01/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by Man50D

There has been much misunderstanding-deliberately promoted by income tax system defenders recently-about the effects of the FairTax on different income segments of the taxpaying public. Let's clear the air a bit.

The greatest benefits of tax reductions under the FairTax, according to respected economists, accrue to low income taxpayers (an average 14% reduction) then to the middle class taxpayers(an average 7% reduction) and then even to the wealthy (an average 5% reduction).

How can this be and still raise enough revenues to replace all taxes now collected under the income tax system? It's because the taxpayers base is dramatically broadened under a consumption tax by bringing in illegal immigrants, as consumers, and the $1.5 trillion annual underground economy. In addition, the very wealthy pay the full 23% rate on spending, which is an increase over the typical 15% capital gains tax now paid on dividends and stock gains when redeemed (Warren Buffet's recent complaint). In a nutshell, the more you spend under the FairTax, the more taxes you pay. Remember, too, that all the gimmicks that those with tax lobbyists and tax lawyers are able to exploit in the current 67,500 pages of income tax regulations also disappear (along with the role of tax lobbyists as there are no exemptions, loopholes or deductions).

The President's Advisory Panel on Tax Reform declared that taxes would go up on the middle class under a consumption tax when they ignored the definitions in the actual pending FairTax legislation and created their own flawed consumption tax. They quietly loaded it with exemptions they felt more "realistic", ignored the distributional effects of eliminating highly regressive FICA taxes (you know, the ones that represent the highest tax payments by low and moderate income taxpayers) and refused to examine the $22 million of FairTax research. They then declared a consumption tax (which many writers have wrongly assumed was the FairTax) as requiring a higher rate and punitive to the middle class.

The FairTax monthly prebate actually wipes out all federal taxes on the poor and a diminishing amount of taxes are reimbursed the further one is from the poverty line.

There is great resistance to the FairTax within the circles of those who profit from the complexities of the income tax code. Last year 53% of all lobby expenditures in Washington, DC were paid to tax lobbyists. It's big business that includes not only lobbyists and tax related think tanks and tax reforms groups (entirely devoted to tweaking the income tax code) but academicians who have built careers on understanding the arcane details of the code.

Add to that the center of resistance to a simple, transparent system without gimmicks-the Congressional tax writing committees themselves. In truth, Congressional Members from both parties are addicted to using the tax code to reward friends and contributors, punish opponents and inept attempts to manipulate citizen behavior through the code. In other words, our tax writing process is driven by all the wrong reasons.

This is the single biggest reason that our tax code is so complex that it costs taxpayers $265 billion a year just to complete tax returns. It is so complex that the IRS can't answer taxpayer questions right more than six of ten times. It is so complex, the IRS comes up $350 billion short of owed taxes every year (raising the average taxpayer bill by about $2,000 annually).

On the merits, the FairTax takes politics out of the tax code and the tax code out of business decisions. It is the politics that are tough because passage requires overcoming powerful institutional players. To this end, Mike Huckabee and a host of other candidates have joined 72 Congressional co-sponsors and a growing army of citizens who believe that the public can still drive public policy ( a novel idea first suggested by the Founding Fathers). Otherwise, we are stuck with a system that makes debt more favorable than wealth, puts the "Made in America" label at a severe competitive disadvantage and punishes labor and investment. It's a system driven by politics, power and profit instead of economics or fairness. It's a lucrative gig for those in Washington and a destructive torture for everyone else.

Instead of borrowing money from the Chinese to pay out rebates to American taxpayers (as welcome as they will be) maybe we should think about what happens to the American economy when we make the USA the most desirable "tax haven" in the world. We have lost at least $12 trillion in American capital to offshore locations in recent years. Economists who have studied the FairTax agree that this wealth and a lot more in foreign investment will rush to our shores once the FairTax is enacted.

As FairTaxers say, "Dare to Be Fair". The FairTax won't be perfect and the transition will require adjustments but compared to the badly broken income tax system that so bedevils taxpayers and damages our economy, it's well worth it.

The FairTax research-as well as a recent article on how the FairTax helps the middle class by brilliant Boston University economics chair, Larry Kotlikoff, can be found at FairTax.org


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: fairtax
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To: xcamel
You post funny pictures. Is there anything you want to say? How about answering some of those questions you have been asked over the last 8 months?

1. Why do you feel that maintaining the income tax is better for America than adopting the FairTax?

2. What are the main drawbacks of the FairTax? You have only pointed out the the income tax is the "devil we know".

3. 75 economists have written and signed a letter to the President and Congress endorsing the FairTax. What economists have lined up against it?

62 posted on 02/01/2008 3:41:10 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: xcamel
Let me guess. You haven't been given a script for today so all you have in your quiver are insults and lies. Wait. That's all you ever have.

Hey x, when are you going to debate the merits of your argument? The only think anyone knows is that you despise the FairTax, think the income tax is workable and you can post funny pictures and endless juvenile insults.

63 posted on 02/01/2008 3:47:09 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: xcamel
To a penny stock pimp I guess another lie is “no big deal”

That is really getting old. I won't stoop to where I could go. I'm better than you that way.

64 posted on 02/01/2008 3:49:05 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: groanup
You trying to channel Hostage now, or just acting like that dime-store fortune reader?

Oh.. I know... a thread disruptor... That’s it..

65 posted on 02/01/2008 3:53:44 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: groanup

Yes you would.. and in spades too.


66 posted on 02/01/2008 4:02:43 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: aimhigh
Even a fair tax has to have someone to collect it, which means the IRS remains.

You obviously haven't read The Fair Tax Act bill. It will abolish the IRS by defunding the agency. Per the bill:

SEC. 301. PHASE-OUT OF ADMINISTRATION OF REPEALED FEDERAL TAXES.

(a) Appropriations- Appropriations for any expenses of the Internal Revenue Service including processing tax returns for years prior to the repeal of the taxes repealed by title I of this Act, revenue accounting, management, transfer of payroll and wage data to the Social Security Administration for years after fiscal year 2011 shall not be authorized.

The existing Treasury Department will be the tax collecting authority. Per the bill:

c) Conforming Amendments- Section 7802 is amended--

(1) by striking subsections (a) and (b) and by redesignating subsections (c) and (d) as subsections (a) and (b),

(2) by striking `Internal Revenue Service' each place it appears and inserting `Department of the Treasury', and

(3) by striking `Commissioner' or `Commissioner of Internal Revenue' each place they appear and inserting `Secretary'.
67 posted on 02/01/2008 4:07:06 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: aimhigh; Man50D

Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss..


69 posted on 02/01/2008 4:18:09 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: groanup

You’re better than that little pimp in every way — and so is everybody else who is decent, straight, and knows the difference between lies and the truth.


70 posted on 02/01/2008 4:19:28 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: xcamel

Questions for you in post #62. Or are you just disrupting?


71 posted on 02/01/2008 4:28:20 PM PST by groanup (Don't let the bastards get you down.)
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To: lewislynn
Apparently you don't know. There is nothing in the passage of the Fairtax bill that compels any other actions not included in the bill and that includes repealing the 16th...

And, despite you huge research efforts at finding out wht the hell you are talking about, you apparently haven't heard or read about this:

Furthermore, the sponsors of the FairTax are totally dedicated to the permanent repeal of the income tax. :b">u>No current supporter of the FairTax would support the FairTax unless the entire income tax is repealed. There is a separate bill, HJR 16, which repeals the 16th Amendment to the Constitution but it must go through a different adoption process than HR 25. HJR 16 has to be passed by a two-thirds vote of members of both the House and the Senate and be approved (or ratified) by three-fourths of state legislatures (38). We are currently laying the organizational groundwork for this push and have already started the educational process at the state level.

But then, that's not surprising, is it -- particularly in view of the fact that you just don't give a damn about the REAL facts anyhow?

72 posted on 02/01/2008 4:31:05 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: groanup

Just like the Hillary machine... spending all your time accusing others of what you so enjoy doing...


73 posted on 02/01/2008 4:32:29 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: xcamel

Come on, fourflusher, how about answers to the questions in # 62, that everyone has been asking you for months now — and not a single one of which you can answer?


74 posted on 02/01/2008 4:37:02 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: lewislynn

Thank you very much for your reply.


79 posted on 02/01/2008 5:28:09 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: DivaDelMar
Why do you think the American public will tolerate an income tax after they've tasted the freedom of the Fair Tax?

Once upon a time, there was no IRS and the people tolerated the creation of the IRS nd the income tax.

It just might turn out that the FairTax is worse than what we have now, and people will long for the good old days of a tax on income.

80 posted on 02/01/2008 6:05:23 PM PST by lucysmom
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