[Clemenza]

Ping!

[sr4402]

I think the writer should have used the word Mistake instead of Sin. As the doctrine of Original Sin would argue that he had been born into a state of Sin and with a Sin nature.

Therefore, if the word Sin is replaced with Mistake in this article, then the Argument is what was his first mistake politically?

[dashing doofus]

Giuliani could and should have made a bolder stand in New Hampshire

But Rudy did try to make a stand in NH. He was here, in the spring and summer, often. And he ran TV ads. He was doing poorly, and then scaled back his effort.

Almost every report on the demise of Julie Annie has swallowed his campaign's line that he did not compete in NH. He did, the liberal politician got pulverized.

[Wuli]

i think NRO has it - the Guliani campaign collapse - just right; while the main line being delivered up in the traitorous media is that voters disagreed with his strong anti-terrorism pitch. They didn’t disagree with it, it just wasn’t enough.

[dashing doofus]

Here is a large reason why Julie Annie lost:

http://www.liberalparty.org/Feb94Page1.html

He tried to get people to focus only on 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, but the head fake failed. People who didn't know him realized he has a liberal agenda: anti 2A, pro-abortion, pro gay rights agenda, etc.

Plus, his bizarre personal life makes Clinton's look almost normal.

[Leisler]

Rudy really knew his city, New York. But he couldn’t belive, like many coastal elite, that there was a different country, even countries in America. And, like a lot of coastal elitists, he thought he could snooker, beat, convince, win over fly over country. He was wrong.

It happens.

The center of American population is south and west of St. Louis. And moving southern and western every year.

[AdaGray]

For me, it was all over for Rudy when he pulled the phony “phone call from the wife” routine while speaking before the NRA.

[Ol' Sparky]

Rudy lost because he dissed social conservatives. In fact, the reason Giuliani missed those early primaries is because he dissed social conservatives.

Exactly. That is THE reason Giuliani lost.

An atrocious record on social issues is also why Willard Romney will not be nominee.

[marsh2]

And it will be Hukabee’s sin/mistake to sequester the social faction and ignore the fiscal and small government conservatives.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"The collapse of Rudy Giuliani’s presidential bid is surely one of the most striking developments of the 2008 campaign. Strategic mistake? I don’t think so. Rudy lost because he dissed social conservatives. In fact, the reason Giuliani missed those early primaries is because he dissed social conservatives. Giuliani’s attempt to take apart and reconstitute Ronald Reagan’s winning political coalition was his original sin. And Rudy’s primal transgression continues to shape the dynamics of 2008’s Republican presidential race. With Reagan’s erstwhile coalition now cast out of the garden of amity, only recognizing and understanding Rudy’s fault will allow us to find our way back."

True. The photos in drag with Trump probably didn't help much either.

Rudy lost because of intellectual errors and political mistakes. It was a mistake, politically and intellectually, for Rudy Giuliani to be pro-abortion and liberal on social issues. There was no sensible or logical reason to break up the Reagan coalition. If Giuliani intended to win, he should have bit the bullet and embraced the conservative platform which has won national elections, as we repeatedly pointed out all along:

Ronald Reagan, President of the United States (1981-1989)

1980: landslide (44 states, 489 electoral votes) Reagan's position: pro-life

1984: landslide (49 states, 525 electoral votes) Reagan's position: pro-life

[Cluster]

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“Clemenza :

” The collapse of Rudy Giuliani’s presidential bid is surely one of the most striking developments of the 2008 campaign... “

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Probably also because, if he arrived at NY as a candidate, GOP understood that it risked to pay for any blunders or suspicious misbehavior for which many have accused Mr. Giulani’s and/or his dubious pals’ (Kerik’s, etc) acts and/or ommissions before and after the striking WTC’s strange deadly total 9/11 collapse.

That’s at least one of the reasons why those apparently huge Polls, giving him 1st for more than a Year, etc, according to some Mass Media’s incredibly manipulative errors, astonishingly melted down, shortly before the campaign was arriving at NY..

- In addition to some Mob-related Prosecutors’ Inquiries on Mr. Giulini’s pal, Kerik, many 9/11 Victims’ Families notoriously waited just an opportunity to raise anew Critical Questions on various WTC issues (fex. WTC Roof’s Blocked Doors, Prohibition of Helicopters, Radio and Water deficiencies for NY FireFighters, sucpicious brutal Refusal of access to Ground Zero by NY FireFighters and Victims’ Families and Friends, suddenly threatened with Jail, hasty Destruction of all Material Evidence despite 9/11 Victims Families’ protests, etc).

See our thread : “Giuliani to bring one (1 !) delegate to McCain and the “kiss of Death” .... Run John, RUN away !...”

[PetroniusMaximus]

"Ding Dong the Witch is Dead."

[Deb]

“Many people” suspect his cancer has returned or spread. Since his “headache”, several weeks ago, Rudy had affectively quit the campaign.

[Alberta's Child]

So why did Rudy hold back from contesting the initial primaries? Chiefly because he himself had created the conditions for his own rejection in the early states.

This is complete B.S. This statement might apply to Iowa, but certainly not to New Hampshire -- where the state's open primary system and the growing influence of displaced liberal Assachusetts residents would have made it an ideal place for Giuliani to win. Heck -- I'd even suggest that all things being equal, Giuliani should have had a better chance of winning New Hampshire than winning Florida.