Posted on 01/30/2008 7:36:51 AM PST by mnehring
When the human waste products peddling the Loose Change documentary got caught stealing their footage from the two French brothers who had been doing a documentary on the FDNY when the planes hit, the always classy 9/11 conspiracy crowd or as they like to be called "The 9/11 Truth Movement" (much as Holocaust deniers like to be called The Holocaust Truth Movement since it sounds better than Evil Nazi Sympathizers) began accusing the brothers of being part of the conspiracy, posted personal information and photos of women from the law firm that sent the letter and began barraging them with threats.
On the food chain of vile and disgusting behavior, 9/11 Conspiracists are one step above the Westboro Baptist Church. They comprise a collection of loons, who are the meeting place where the far-right and the far-left meet. As Dustin Hoffman said about the Weatherman in the aftermath of a bombing at his home "At a certain point the radical right and the radical left merged. They shook hands." 9/11 conspiracies are where the far- right and the far-left have shaken hands over their joint hatred of America, the American government and their endorsement of any means that would overthrow it.
The far right and the far left have both extensive experience in historical revisionism. The far right has dedicated enormous efforts to Holocaust denial. The far left has created a blanket of silence over the crimes of Communism and the murder of uncounted millions by Stalin and the USSR. At 9/11 for the first time they joined bloody hands for a project of historical revisionism that fuses their common belief that the American government is a force of evil and any problem must be laid at its door with the not so subtle corollary that terrorists are ultimately our allies in overthrowing the force of evil that is the US government. Like the Neo-Nazis who secretly think the Holocaust was a good idea that didn't go far enough and the Left-Wingers who think that Stalin's brutalities would be a fitting answer to Haliburton and the Bush Administration, their modern heirs approve of 9/11 and the murder of thousands of Jew Yorkers and the Apostles of Globalization and Capitalism. They however can't admit it. And that's where 9/11 denial comes from.
9/11 denial is not a reasoned process. I live in Lower Manhattan and I saw the first posters blaming the US government and claiming Muslim terrorists weren't at fault mere days after the attacks when downtown itself had been shut down. Their first reaction even while the rescue efforts went on was to defend their ideological allies in Afghanistan. They held phony memorials for the victims of September 11th and of "American atrocities around the world." They could never permit themselves to admit that thousands of innocent people died at the hands of Islamic terrorists, because they cannot admit to the existence of any evil beyond America. Denial was a reflex.
The milder forms of 9/11 denial involved describing the attacks as "blowback" for CIA operations or calling it "payback" for supporting Israel. By now these forms of 9/11 denial have gone mainstream as the rhetoric of Noam Chomsky gives way to Newsweek editorials and the stump speeches of Ron Paul. These though were just the gateway for the hard core conspiracists who would go on to argue that the CIA and the Mossad were actually behind the attacks. Here Arab conspiracy theories finally fused with Western radical conspiracy theories. Arab conspiracy theories originally fed by Western works like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Nazi literature came full circle to be embraced in Russia, France, Germany and Berkeley. The Far-Right and the Far-Left shook hands with each other and then shook hands with Muslim terrorists for a grand alliance that had David Duke delivering lectures in Arab countries, Noam Chomsky writing the introduction to a Holocaust denier's book and radical Muslim organizations participating in Neo-Trotskyist Anti-War rallies.
The one thing that unites this evil alliance is their burning desire to bring down Western civilization onto a burning pyre out of whose ashes they plan to build their perfect societies. But for that to happen, America must fall. The American Far-Right and Far-Left have long indulged in fantasies of leading a revolutionary campaign to overthrow the US government. The Far-Right has The Turner Diaries, a novel of the overthrow of America accompanied by the classical Nazi program of genocide and dropping nuclear weapons on Israel. The Far-Left has endless revolutionary texts predicting the fall of capitalism, the onset of a fascist tyranny followed by a bloody revolution and purges as a socialist utopia emerges out of the flames.
Both seek to resurrect their glory days under Stalin and Hitler, yet at the same time both recognize that they are incapable of actually leading and fighting that revolution. Islam's bloody jihad represents their answer. In their propaganda Islam is the force of the oppressed coming to bring down the American government and to do the bloody work the David Duke's and Noam Chomsky's are too cowardly to take on themselves. Islamic terrorist attacks forces governments to adopt security measures that radical movements can then use as ammunition to argue that we are living under a tyranny and radicalize their more moderate cousins.
To the Far-Right and the Far-Left, Islamic terrorists are the cannon-fodder with which to secure their revolution and their Utopian society. 9/11 was exactly what they had dreamed of for a long time, the glorious act of wholesale destruction to which the Oklahoma City bombing or the ALF's bouts of environmentalist vandalism could only aspire to.
With Bin Laden and his cohorts providing the wholesale destruction, the Far-Right and the Far-Left maintain their side of the partnership by providing the propaganda that stigmatizes every action America takes and redirects the blame for even the actions of the terrorists back onto America. While the terrorists stab us from the front, they stab us in the back. 9/11 denial serves as a key tool in undermining the War on Terror by not only arguing that there is no actual terrorism but that it was carried out by the US government itself.
This is a common practice by the allies of Muslim terrorism. In Russia apologists for Muslim Chechnyan terrorists claim the KGB is actually behind many of the attacks attributed to the the Chechnyans. In Israel some left-wingers and Pro-Islamic conspiracy theorists like Barry Chamish have claimed that Israel was behind many of the attacks attributed to Hamas. In the US Democratic Congresswoman Carolyn McKinney inspired an outpouring of anger from the Indian-American community when she claimed that Islamic terrorist attacks in India had actually been carried out by the Indian government. Time and time again the patterns recurs across the world.
When Muslim terrorists blow up a building or open fire on a crowded bus, their apologists quickly come out claiming that the government was behind it. The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement is only a piece of that larger movement which seeks to shift the blame from Muslim terrorists for their attacks to the government of that country. The conspiracy theories and shoddy collections of absurd evidence, the painfully amateurish documentaries and pasted flyers are just the propoganda tools for the world's largest form of historical revisionism, Terrorism Denial.
The milder form of Terrorism Denial is pervasive within the Democratic party and among Liberals where the usual approach to terrorism is to ignore its existence or to argue that global warming and the extinction of the penguins are far graver threats. On the political fringes though terrorism denial is widespread and well-organized, backed up by rhetoric and arguments, by phony claims and phonier documentaries of government involvement and shadow worlds of conspiracies and secret insurgencies.
Terrorism Denial victimizes Jews as much of the world deliberately pretends that Palestinian terrorism consists of a few rock throwing little boys. Terrorism Denial victimizes much of the world from Australia to America to Europe as Islamic attacks are ignored and Islam itself is praised as a religion of peace.
Terrorism Denial, of which 9/11 Denial is only a subset, is the blindfold wrapped across the eyes of civilization, that in turn becomes its strangling cord.
Vote Ron Paul 2008!
Westboro Phelps Love Cult is NOT FAR RIGHT!!! Phelps is just another bigoted Democrat politician (and he has run for office several times).
Incorrect formulation. The Far-right has nothing to do with Nazism, holocaust denial, or hatred of Israel. Those are all attributes of the various flavors of Socialism. The Left is the problem here.
“The far right has dedicated enormous efforts to Holocaust denial.”
Uh, no.
You’ve turned to the dark side.
I always thought the left-right line is actually a circle.
If you go too far right, you find yourself on the left.
If you go the other way, extreme control leads to extreme rebellion, the more rebellion, the more destruction of the controlling powers, resulting in anarchy.
You got something there with the circle.
"Dictator X is a friend of the people, he is creating a future we can all be pround of."
"Really? I just heard that Dictator X massacred 200,000 people."
"Oh. Well, he's obviously drifted from good, solid far-left policies to the the extremist far-right policies. Politics is a circle, you know ..."
The Left is collectivist. The Right is Individualist. You cannot drift so far toward Individualism that you fall into Identity Politics. Nor does it work the other way.
See 9 for a challenge to that.
He also supported Gore in 1998 and helped run his campaign.
I agree, as a dedicated member of the far right, I believe in a republic and a constitutional form of government that gives people the maximum amount of freedom by limiting the government’s power over people.
This very definition is the complete opposite of fascism, socialism and communism which are all just different forms of leftists’ collectivism.
It was a Socialist state. A politicial elite, acting as an oligarchy, ruled the country and ignored popular sentiment.
The system eventually collapsed and verged on anarchy. There was much chaos as the Soviet empire fell apart.
Eventually organized crime flourished, acting as an oligarchy, and plundered the country while ignoring popular sentiment.
A strong leader, Putin, came to power and mastered the oligarchs, leading the country back into a dictatorship where a politicial elite, acting as an oligarchy, ruled the country and ignored popular sentiment.
We've got Left --> Anarchy --> Left here, but I don't see anything I would call Individualist or right-wing. I think all this took place on one extreme end of the political spectrum.
Do you have an example of a socialist state flipping directly over to a nation of individual rights, property ownership and free markets?
Now cmon, are you telling me that if someone suggests that actions have consequences that they are somehow connected to Stalin and Adolph Hitler? Thats a stretch.
Ron Paul and the CIA are right about blowback, our actions overseas DO have consequences... but does that mean we shouldnt have ever acted in the first place? No, not necessarily.
Not individual rights as we define it, but there are a lot of Eastern European States who have fallen much closer to anarchy. I think a lot of folks here are stopping their line of 'far right' with our Constitutional freedoms instead of continuing the line to its furthest point (100% individual, 0% government- anarchy)
I think you’re posting to the wrong guy. I was commenting on the shape of the political spectrum. I didn’t say anything about Actions, Consequences, Ron Paul, or the CIA.
The problem is they never talk about blowback the other direction, the blowback of inaction. What would happen if we didn't 'intervene'? What would happen if we didn't support Saddam against Iran? What would have happened if Iran beat Iraq and took over the ME? What would happen if we didn't base up in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War and keep Saddam from moving in there and push him out of Kuwait?
You can count major negative blowback events on one hand, but positive blowback, which is often overlooked.
IMHO, blowback is a cop-out answer.
It’s more of a cube.
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