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To: Brett66

Oh, but don’t know you? We’re the “lunatic fringe.” McCain can win without us. /sarc

It’s funny for me to see the McCainiacs on here saying that McCain’s going to win against Hillary. What they fail to realize is that Hillary has the liberal base locked up in her corner and only needs to focus on winning over the mushy middle independents. McCain has to fight for BOTH the conservative base and the independent vote. If even 1-3% of the conservative base doesn’t vote for him, he’s toast. The last 2 elections have been within a 3% margin. Losing 2% of your base will cost you the election.


8 posted on 01/29/2008 11:14:48 PM PST by VegasBaby (<---Just one of many who refuses to vote for McCain or Huckabee under any circumstance)
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To: VegasBaby

“The McCain Mutiny.”


11 posted on 01/29/2008 11:16:12 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: VegasBaby

If McCain is the nominee, the Republican Party leadership may not see much of a revolt expressed to it directly, but I can tell you they will see it expressed in some maner.

I will be glad to join any former Republcans who wish to get signatures to put a new party on the State of California ballot starting in 2010.

By 2012, we should be a good part of the way to replacing a party that has basicly said - - to those of us who have supported it our whole lives.

After Super Tuesday, I will be registering as an independent. I think it would be a great idea if tens of millions of us did the same thing.

Those of you who want to vote this fall, could still do it. It sure would send a message though.

If their registrations dropped by 75% or so, it would send a very powerful message, even if folks did wind up voting for the RP nominee this fall.

I won’t be, but others will obviously feel compelled to do so.


25 posted on 01/29/2008 11:23:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: VegasBaby

I assure you Klinton is holding off on her big guns against Obama. My bet is that she has a sex scandal ,something like that on Obama. The Klintons will do anything short of assignation to beat out Obama.


114 posted on 01/30/2008 2:56:35 AM PST by sonic109
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To: VegasBaby

Losing 2% of your base will cost you the election.

Precisely what the NYT knows and is counting on.


121 posted on 01/30/2008 3:09:36 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: VegasBaby
If McCain is the nominee, he will lose in a landslide. Conservatives will stay home on election day, which means McCain can expect no more than 35-40% of the overall vote. This will create the appearance of a Democrat mandate, which the MSM will feature prominently the following 8 years.

I cannot support McCain in any way. I am still PO'd about the "Gang of 14" manuever as well as his capitulation on Global Warming. Just elect a dadgum democrat so we can clearly define the enemy.

145 posted on 01/30/2008 5:25:01 AM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: VegasBaby

according to polls (though of course they are not too predictive as we have seen) McCain is the only one who keeps it competitive (within one or two points on either side). as much as we dont like him (and before anyone goes batty with me i voted in NH for Fred) he does seem to appeal to the squishy middle and some Democrats. this is the rationale for why he has a better shot to win.


170 posted on 01/30/2008 6:51:10 AM PST by DM1
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To: VegasBaby

I can tell you right now, if the reports are true about McCain not being able to stand Mitt, then McCain better get over it really quick. Because I am telling you, if he and Huck manage to keep Mitt from winning the nomination, there is no way in hell I will consider voting for McCain unless he sucks it up and has Mitt as his running mate. I would rather let the country go to hell and not give into McCain without seeing him give in a little. But that doesn’t mean I am giving up. I just prayed this morning that Mitt not be defeated by McCain, who is being benefitted by Democrats who are messsing with the open Primary System.


171 posted on 01/30/2008 6:51:28 AM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: VegasBaby
If even 1-3% of the conservative base doesn’t vote for him, he’s toast. The last 2 elections have been within a 3% margin. Losing 2% of your base will cost you the election.

That's why now that all the conservative candidates are out of the race, thanks to the clueless GOP voters in early primary states, none of the remaining candidates can defeat either HillBillary or Sheik Obama.

McCain would lose far more than 3% of the conservative base because of his liberal Senate record, his obvious emotional and mental instability, and the fact that many conservatives hate him more than they hate Hillary or any Democrat.

Romney would lose considerably more than 3% of the evangelical voters and possibly some of the Catholic voters because of his religion and his flip flops on so many issues. We may not approve of ruling out a candidate because of his religion, but it would be a factor in the election whether we like it or not.

As for the Huckleberry, he would lose well over 3% of the voters from all sectors except perhaps evangelicals. And even many of them won't vote for him in the primaries, so he will probably be out of the race after Super Tuesday anyway.

Bottom line, unless all those millions of moderate independents who supposedly adore McCain turn out for him in droves the Democrats will hold the White House plus both houses of Congress next year. The early primary state voters should have thought of that before they drove all the conservatives out of the race before it barely got started. One thing the party won't lose this year is it's well deserved nickname, it's still the THE STUPID PARTY.

185 posted on 01/30/2008 7:29:23 AM PST by epow (I would rather lose in a cause that will some day win, than win in a cause that will some day lose!)
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To: VegasBaby

McCain has already lost the conservative base in my humble opinion. If he is on the ticket I will not vote for him or any other person. Alot of conservatives will just stay home.


216 posted on 01/30/2008 9:40:36 AM PST by jrcats (Hillary the "Manchurian Candidate".)
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