Posted on 01/29/2008 2:39:37 PM PST by Incorrigible
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Doesn’t your dh belong?
Poppy was lifetime member of the American Legion.
I don’t know if No-No belongs to either organization.
I got this article in my email this morning. So sad.
Yes, hubby joined as a lifetime member in 2003. Post 27. The VFW here is where the Princess won her saddle in the drawing.
I think he finally joined the DAV here too. Next month the local post is having lasagne dinner. It was Chili this month.
The local AL post doesn’t seem to do much...just Bingo night.
PS I should tattle on you...calling him the No...naughty naughty!
I remember that and I remember the intemperate and snotty comments made by some of their national leaders regarding Viet Nam vets. I also remember after I served before the Viet Nam era (2.5 years US Naval Reserve, 3 years US Army, RA, 2 honorable discharges) being told when I attempted to join both the VFW and the American Legion, that my service didn't count because it took place at the "wrong time"
Now look at what they have. They did it to themselves.
TS
I tried to join VFW 15 years ago. Over the course of almost a year and a half and many restarts the organization could not get my name or service number right and could not get military verification for my eligibility because they would not spell my name right or even use the right name. I would go over it letter by letter and digit by digit but when the paper came back it would always be wrong, sometimes in highly creative ways, usually with name order reversed. I gave it up. That level of incompetence was astounding to me and I no longer desired to be part of such an organization.
“but his conduct was still reckless and put other people’s lives at risk.”
How is that? You never saw him drive. He drove better with a dozen beers than most people I see everyday driving sober.
Are you always this prejudiced!
The post here seemed very eager to get me on board 15 years ago because the membership had been declining and they needed “fresh blood” but their incompetence with paperwork kept me out.
I think it is outrageous to arrest anyone who has not done anything wrong.
>>>>DWI is wrong. Legally, morally...there’s simply no justification for driving while impaired by drugs or alcohol. Period. I liken it to driving while talking on cell phones and running over someone. If you’re impaired in any way and kill someone, you’re at fault. Would you also condone airline pilots for flying while under the influence? How about brain surgeons?
You on the other hand apparently countenence the new Puritanism where things are evil and our rights are squashed.
>>>>No, not at all. I just use my common sense and know that it’s highly dangerous and when you drink and drive you take other people’s lives into your hands. Just because there’s been no accidents while DWI, that only means you’ve been lucky! And it’s not like there’s not sheer mountains of evidence!
We had a member who got caught driving over .08 4 times = never had an accident and lost his life for 25 years.
How is that justice.
>>>>Did he go through rehab? Or did he just decide laws don’t apply to him all the way to the point his freedom was less imporatant than drinking and driving?
BY FAR the stories I’ve heard is the man who’s been arrested over and over and finally kills someone and people are asking why wasn’t he locked up before he killed someone or a whole family!?
I’m a member of the VFW and have had a DWI btw...
I’m certain it is, but shouldn’t. The VFW and American Legion need to find growth oriented leadership and find out why the younger vets aren’t interested. I do believe there is a way to make them organizations in which the younger ones would want to take part.
I have always felt the veteran’s organizations should be taking the lead in every patriotic holiday and celebration. They should be a political force as well.
I let my VFW and American Legion membership expire ten years ago. I’m going to reinstate them.
I understand where you are coming from.
I joined when I got back from Gulf I in ‘91. One of my first nights in there, several guys started giving me grief about Desert Shield/Storm being a “cakewalk”.
Later, I noticed that it was NOT an exclusive club... they were letting the general public in.
Yep, you guessed it. Some of those giving me crap about the Gulf had never gotten closer to it (or any other military service) than watching it on CNN.
I let my membership drop, and I have never been back.
And they were hustling to find Grenada vets and Panama vets to get them in.
The VFW has a concept flaw. Their membership is based not on being a veteran, but being a war veteran. This guarantees that their membership will be cyclical. They are dependent on war.
They should have long ago embraced the idea that while war veterans are special, veterans who did not fight in wars are far closer to them than civilians. Veterans who did not fight in wars still have many of the same beliefs, honor, and the same respect for the uniform.
Had they included veterans who did not fight in wars, they could have maintained steady support for an organization that would still recognize their special status. Their posts would not be closing, and there would be young blood and new money supporting it.
Veterans who did not fight in wars are highly respectful of those who did. And since most civilians can barely tell the difference between a military and police uniform, the VFW should have long ago opened its doors to veterans who not only know very well what that uniform and its decorations mean, but appreciate them as well.
If he got pulled over 4 times his driving couldn’t have been that great.
Have you heard of a DD 214....either you are elgibile or not....don't try to BS the folks my friend...
Didn't exist before 1947. Twelve million in uniform in WWII. Far fewer in uniform in succeeding wars. Not hard to figure their problem.
I call bovine secretions....I guess you and John Kerry must have the same problem....inability to produce a DD 214...
A few years after I returned from Vietnam, I went to the local VFW with my Dad, who was both a Vietnam and WWII Vet. Some of the members made it clear that I was not welcome. My Dad was pretty embarrased about it. While I kept my VFW membership for a number of years after that, I never again set foot inside a VFW post.
I can’t imagine that my nephew who is serving his second tour in Iraq would even bother to go in the first time.
And I'll bet he didn't have his seat belt on either, that nasty old guy. Let's fine him for that too. And see if you can't get him for mis-matched socks, too, while you are at it, which you are. You should understand that using a broad brush mostly causes more problems than it fixes. Look at the guys record, he was not some drunk. What I want to say to you is to use your own mind and not mindlessly parrot the crap that has been poured into you head by our government schools.
Have you heard of the American Legion???
No offense to my hotel pin-wearing bretheren, but that gave me a sad chuckle.
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