Posted on 01/29/2008 11:55:19 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
What is tragically "funny" is that the next president will have a chance to actually appoint the judges to the SCOTUS that could overturn Roe v. Wade. And now, it almost certainly will not happen. So, at the point of having a large victory within reach, a commitment to an ideal that will not be in reach for the foreseeable future caused an implosion.
I beg anyone to scan my posts concerning evangelicalism. I was on the Neverending Thread as a conservative Evangelical for years.
and yet has the audacity to then call Dobson a bigot for questioning the depth of Thompson's Christianity...they are hypocrites.
So, it's ok for you to call us hypocrites. But not us to call Dobson one. Got it. You're the epitome of consistency.
This thread once again proves the old observation here that folks really don't objectively address each topic.
You are obviously not immune to your own observation.
“And basically that means we have a party that stands for nothing because Bush stands for nothing.”
Well, I agree with every thing you said except the above.
He stands for the new world order and open borders.
Yes. And Dobson's email was private. And his phone call with the reporter was misinterpreted. And his statement on his radio program that he couldn't support any of the Republican candidates until Huckabee came along means nothing.
They have been educational and extremely entertaining.
Good point. Dobson's visceral reaction to Thompson came from somewhere. It was not created ex nihilo.
Thanks for the original post. As a former pastor myself, I was orginally surprised with Dobson's perceived gamesmanship in this pericope of American politics. He was usually an "above-the-fray" kinda guy.
It is never surprising that when you criticize a highly influential member of an organization or community (i.e. Evangelicals), that many of the people in the community cannot separate the criticism of the individual from criticism of the founding principles of the community. Having been up close and personal like for some of the Bakker/Swaggart "fun", I have seen it all too well.
Having seen the machinations on the inside of denominational food fights, it surprises me not in the least that Huckabee and Dobson can both show some surprising lacks in values and yet have their true believers soldier bravely on, defending them they know not why. Other than that they are "men of God." But "man of God" is not a position. It is a person who exhibits God's purity and righteousness. We in the Evangelical movement have often mistaken position for anointing or favor. They are quite different.
Source plz?
You put your finger on something that will be very evident next Tuesday. There has been a psychological projection of: "identity politics"
IOW: The whole country hates hicks so there is no why a Bible Belt guy from the Boondocks can possibly win the the general. That's the impression I got. How are we folks in Southern fly-over country supposed to react to that?
What kind of political buffoon forgets that: "All politics is local"?
"A Southern man don't need him around anyhow" - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Another interesting conundrum: How do the Republicans expect to win with a Pro-Choice, Anti-2a candidate? How will they possibly take the South, West and the Southwest with such?
I am no Huck fan, but at the least he has not betrayed these two very basic principles. All the rest have.
that’s about how I feel too...what a mess.
Oh, pu-leeeze.
Your musings are getting sillier and sillier.
Last time I checked, Fred Thompson was a southern Protestant from the Bible Belt. Oh wait, I forgot - Fred's not a Christian.
People don't "hate" (Why is it that you and the rest of the Dobson Support Squad are the only ones to use the word hate?) Huckabee because he's a Hick, or because he's from the Bible Belt or because he's from the Boondocks.
Most conservatives don't like Huckabee because they are opposed to many of his positions, because of his record and because they don't find him credible.
All that plus a Lynyrd Skynyrd quote - Wow, you're hip! /sarcasm
That's why I have made up my mind to endorse Dr.Alan Keyes, the last Reagan Conservative in the race. Let the chips fall where they may, I sleep well at night.
Hmm, perhaps a certain evangelical leader should have considered that conundrum last spring before slagging the preferred candidate of the NRTL and NRA. Maybe?
Yes, well perhaps that candidate should not have been mired in his own hubris and courted the Christian vote a bit, as I have painstakingly explained.
You've explained nothing. Unitl now.
You finally admitted that the reason you and the rest of the Dobson support Squad opposed Thompson is because your feeeeelingsss were hurt.
Which is exactly what I stated in my analysis.
I don't know how you could have made Theophilus' point more perfectly. Your bias is showing, and you don't even know it.
What's next? Are you going to tell me that the Van Zandt boys are/were evangelicals and I shouldn't criticize them?
No wait- I've got it. Why not quote the Dixie Chicks to support your weird ramblings about conservative Yankees attacking southerners?
The Dobson Support Squad strikes again!
BWAHAHAHA! Shallow and without merit.
As a point of order, I have said little in defense of Dobson. In fact, my past posts will clearly show that BOTH could have handled the whole situation better.
Dobson is tangential to the greater agument, That being Thomson's utter failure to capture the Christian vote, regardless of why.
It is not the role of the Christian community to court Thompson. In fact, it is quite the other way around. Thompson, in his hubris, failed to give the Christians what they needed to hear, and in doing so left himself wide open to the attacks brought against him by Huckabee. That is the point of failure, that is the nexus that everything else revolves around.
When all is said and done, you may chew all the sour grapes you like, but the fault lies not with Huckabee, not with Dobson, and not with the Christians. The fault lies with Thompson himself.
Keep taking those meds, buddy.
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