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S.F. green firm president killed skiing at Homewood resort
SF Chronicle ^ | Jan 28, 2008 | John Koopman

Posted on 01/28/2008 3:21:39 PM PST by RDTF

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To: Slicksadick

Goodness, I’ve spent a lot of time skiing deep powder among the trees, and have fallen into more than one of them. Usually it was the occasion for laughter. I had no idea that tree wells could actually eat people!

My technique for escaping from the tree well involves finding my skis (never ski the trees with bindings alone or you WILL lose a ski and end up walking out) and placing it in a horizontal position on the side of the well, then using it as a stair to climb out. I also pull myself up by hanging on the branches. Sometimes it isn’t easy, and it’s possible to get quite out of breath and exhausted.

Perhaps the worst part is that the tree absorbs any sound, so your calls for help are smothered and people skiing only a short distance away may not be able to hear you.


41 posted on 01/28/2008 4:09:44 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: So Circumstanced

I don’t ski but if I did I would stick to water skiing. No trees.


42 posted on 01/28/2008 4:13:11 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Yossarian
giving you a view of the amazing blue lake the whole way down.

...that might have been his problem or he just lost control.

Now as far as "black" humor.... c'mon let's not lose our heads about this.

Cause arguing with Freepers is like banging your head on a hard object.

I wonder if this will be reported in the usual liberal fashion?

Like "A tree killed an environmental entrepreneur, marking another environmentalist killed since Bush declared an end to hostilities in Iraq."

43 posted on 01/28/2008 4:19:49 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Bender2
"...harmful footprint on the environment..." tells me all I need to know about where you stand politically.

And your sophomoric response tells ALL of us exactly where YOU stand mentally. Don't hurt your neck trying to maintain eye contact, our toenails are clean.

Conservation, that is, minimizing one's negative impact to the natural environment, is NOT a Liberal idea -- they don't hold some kind of moral ownership to it -- it is a Conservative idea arising out of the patently biblical concept of stewardship. You don't just go out and thrash the world, because you have respect for what it is, and understand that thrashing things for the sake of thrashing things puts you somewhere below the level of even Beavis and Butthead. In fact, you actually -- and I know this is the part that's difficult to get -- it is the concept of stewardship that is the impetus to exert some effort to NOT trash things whenever it is reasonable.

The mere fact that somebody's got a company that attempts to help other enterprises move forward without leaving unnecessary environmental damage behind them does not make that person a Gorebot. They might be one, but that isn't necessarily so. In fact, they equally well could be a Conservative voter trying to keep other companies in business, and out of hot water with the burgeoning regulations and environmental laws.

44 posted on 01/28/2008 4:33:16 PM PST by HKMk23 (AUT VINCERI AUT MORI)
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To: ottbmare
I can tell you've paid your dues climbing out of these tree wells (as have I). The snow in the Sierras is almost always very heavy, thick, and wet. What they get here that’s not normal in most other areas, are really huge snowfalls. 24", 26" or even 48" dumps are not uncommon when its really snowing hard.

All that thick, heavy snow, combined with falls off the tree while a person struggles, can kill a person in minutes. I had no idea they had an entire website devoted to this problem, until I started searching images for this article. It seems it could rival collisions as a leading cause of skiing deaths.

45 posted on 01/28/2008 4:33:29 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: BunkDetector
Re: PLUS, he’s looking for “thoughtful” responses when we have a chance to mock a man’s death ‘cause we find his politics suspect. Very strange.

My point in posting to Yossarian was his non-satirical use of a favorite catch phrase of those non-Conservative (Cannot use 'Liberal' here, Yossarian said so!) folks championing Global Warming and such other Algore hugging environmental crapola.

I reread my post #27 above and discover that I did not find me mocking anyone's death, yet you seem to be disappointed I didn't.

BTW I am sure that even Hill/Bill Clinton, Joe Stalin and Pol Pot all had thoughtful moments once in a blue moon, but that does not make me want to follow their politics.

Now, just to make your day, let me say in reference to the deceased green SF skier, I wonder if he recently changed his political allegiance from Hillary to Obama? {Rimshot!}

46 posted on 01/28/2008 4:42:35 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Slicksadick

I think there’s the difference: I’ve never skied in the far West and have confined my skiing to the Rockies and the Eastern slopes. The snow in the Rockies is “champagne powder,” so light it floats in the air over the valleys on a sunny afternoon. It would be hard to suffocate in that unless one were knocked unconscious and fell face-down. The stuff you have in the Sierras would be far more frightening and dangerous. I shudder to realize now that falling in tree wells once made me laugh and curse, since I didn’t know it could be fatal in some areas.


47 posted on 01/28/2008 4:51:26 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: Bender2

re: mocking..never said it was you.
But, did you spot the 20 other posts that did?
I find it repugnant when people ( not you)
let partisan zealotry trump humanity.

beit’s not all about you.


48 posted on 01/28/2008 5:01:44 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: beethovenfan
I hope he has one of them “green” burials.

How do you do that? If cremated, you release greenhouse gases in the air. If buried, you take precious property that could be used for wilderness areas.

I guess you could leave him out for a while and let the animals pick at his bones.

49 posted on 01/28/2008 5:07:21 PM PST by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: HKMk23
Re: And your sophomoric response tells ALL of us exactly where YOU stand mentally. Don't hurt your neck trying to maintain eye contact, our toenails are clean.

Gadzooks, did I step on your toenails, clean or otherwise?

When someone starts talking like a duck, I generally hear quacks. "...harmful footprint on the environment..." quacks like an Algore duck in my view whether you like it or not.

Now, as to your "...it is the concept of stewardship that is the impetus to exert some effort to NOT trash things whenever it is reasonable." I do understand that and have no objection to it but I still find the green wankers are never "reasonable" in their views that place any land, insect or animal above the needs of humans.

Need I suggest drilling for oil in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge or off the coast of California or Florida? Perhaps I should mention preventing the Navy from using sonar or any of thousands of other green ideas I don't cotton to?

Heck, if it was up to the sharks, bears and wolves, we just be between meal snacks.

BTW my low moron mentality tells me your 'AUT VINCERI AUT MORI' should be Aut vincere aut mori - Either conquer or die

50 posted on 01/28/2008 5:07:32 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: HKMk23

Well said my friend!


51 posted on 01/28/2008 5:11:29 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: China Clipper

My husband loves skiing in the woods,,,somepeople love that.


52 posted on 01/28/2008 5:13:10 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Yossarian

Thanks.

Every thread is the same when death is involved,,,sad, then some smart aleck, then a suspicious person.Always like that on FR.


53 posted on 01/28/2008 5:14:43 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: BunkDetector; ontap; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido
Re: ...did you spot the 20 other posts that did?

Yes, I did, old sport and whether it is good manners or not, cynical humor, like insanity, runs rampant here on FR. Heck, it practically gallops.

I once said on a thread I was against FFL gun dealers selling weapons off paper to known crooks. Now, you would think that would not be challenged here on this Conservative Republican website, yet a gaggle of Good Republicans (or so they claimed) took me to task for this view and called me a Nazi and a troll among other things for even defending the Federal Government having the power to license gun dealers.

And don't get me started on the trashing I get for posting photos or graphics of Bender the Robot on an NFL live thread.

Not to mention that anyone who joined FR one day earlier that someone else, they are automatically more knowledgeable on any subject unimaginable!

Okay, my rant over! Move along, nothing here to see--

Ha, the joys of the World Wide Web! Ain't it grand?

54 posted on 01/28/2008 5:24:01 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: RDTF

Ironic, a guy fighting global warming dies in the snow!


55 posted on 01/28/2008 5:36:59 PM PST by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: Yossarian

Here is a man who worked hard to help companies do what they need and want to do to stay in business, but to do it with a minimal harmful footprint on the environment. There’s nothing “liberal”

Not when you are providing a service that is being mandated in different states.


56 posted on 01/28/2008 6:18:12 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: So Circumstanced

bono was our congressman when he died he also was very involved in the clinton impeachment committee. his death sure made the rest of the committee whuuusss


57 posted on 01/28/2008 6:28:57 PM PST by mt tom (high in the sierras looking down into the garden spot of the world)
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To: mt tom

Kidding aside, I truly liked Sonny Bono, and was sad to see him go.
I thought that he was on the road to even greater things, that he had so much more to offer, and I was crestfallen to see big hopes for his further contributions dashed in that one fatal event.


58 posted on 01/28/2008 6:47:03 PM PST by So Circumstanced
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To: Bender2
a supposedly Conservative Republican website

A brief reminder that FR is not partisan. It's simply conservative.

Yes, many Republican partisans flocked here after a Freeper let the blue dress out of the bag, but were still only conservative.

59 posted on 01/28/2008 6:52:44 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
Re: A brief reminder that FR is not partisan.

You could have fooled me!

But what the hell... do I know?

60 posted on 01/28/2008 7:15:49 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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