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Another illegal immigrant takes sanctuary at Chicago church (defies deportation order)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 1/28/08 | AP

Posted on 01/28/2008 10:43:34 AM PST by NormsRevenge

A Chicago church is again in the spotlight in the debate over immigrant rights.

Illegal immigrant Elvira Arellano (el-VEE'-ruh ah-ray-AH'-noh) took sanctuary in the Adalberto United Methodist Church for a year before she was arrested on a visit to Los Angeles and deported last August.

Now, another illegal immigrant, Flor Crisostomo (floor kree-SOHS'-toh-moh), has defied a deportation order and taken refuge in the same church.

Crisostomo is an illegal immigrant from Mexico arrested at a workplace raid at a Chicago site of IFCO Systems in 2006.

The 28-year-old told reporters at the church Monday that she chose to defy authorities to illustrate the injustice of U.S. immigration laws.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; arellano; chicago; deportation; diversity; illegalimmigrant; immigrantlist; religiousleft; sanctuary; umc
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1 posted on 01/28/2008 10:43:35 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 01/28/2008 10:48:35 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge

Go in and get him out!


3 posted on 01/28/2008 10:49:38 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NormsRevenge
It is not a real Church, the loon that runs it is a far, far, far left whacked out liberal.
4 posted on 01/28/2008 10:50:04 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: NormsRevenge

This idea of churches providing sanctuary really bothers me. It’s based on the fact that the Church used to indeed be a parallel government with its own rights that the secular government was obliged to honor.

What is this, London in 1250?

If a valid search and/or arrest warrant has been issued, a church should be searched on exactly the same basis as a warehouse or office. Anyone (including priest, minister or rabbi) intentionally hiding or protecting a known fugitive should be charged and prosecuted.


5 posted on 01/28/2008 10:50:44 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: org.whodat

Arrest the pastor.. obstruction of justice


6 posted on 01/28/2008 10:51:03 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: NormsRevenge

The only injustice you skank is that you haven’t been deported yet.


7 posted on 01/28/2008 10:53:08 AM PST by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: NormsRevenge
The 28-year-old told reporters at the church Monday that she chose to defy authorities to illustrate the injustice of U.S. immigration laws.

Thank God. Someone is finally going to show how much of an injustice it is towards Americans.

We should definately adopt the Mexican immigration laws and become more humane.

8 posted on 01/28/2008 10:53:32 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Ditto. And take away the tax exemption of the church.
9 posted on 01/28/2008 10:55:33 AM PST by Dante3
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To: gubamyster
Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn amendment , which would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa. Republicans underlined:

Never forget McCain not only pushed the amnesty bill, he refused to allow exclusions for the worst of the lot. And he unloaded his infamous temper on his mild-mannered senate colleague for having the audacity to introduce this amendment.

Apologies to any who feel I am spamming this message on campaign threads, but it is an important message on a key vote which needs to get out.

10 posted on 01/28/2008 10:57:03 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: org.whodat

It certainly is a church. It is the church of Marxism and anti-Americanism.


11 posted on 01/28/2008 10:58:47 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Sherman Logan

1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.

Romans 13:1-6.

I don’t agree with this all the time (I would not quote it as a reason for the Germans to submit to Hitler), but it is clearly appropriate to remind this lost shepherd how the flock is to be properly led.


12 posted on 01/28/2008 11:00:41 AM PST by henkster (The koran is "Mein Kampf" written in funny curlie-Q's)
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To: businessprofessor
It certainly is a church. It is the church of Marxism and anti-Americanism.

You get an A+ on your midterm!

13 posted on 01/28/2008 11:01:22 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Needs to be counter-balanced with the various scriptures requiring obedience to God rather than to man when in direct conflict. This is, of course, not a license to ignore the government whenever you dislike what it’s doing.


14 posted on 01/28/2008 11:07:45 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Agreed, but I can’t think of anything in scripture to justify using churches as sanctuaries for illegal aliens.

Plenty of historical precedents, mostly Byzantine, of churches being used as sanctuaries for deposed Emperors or failed coup leaders. Sometimes the sanctuary was honored. Sometimes, in a very bloody way, not.

Christ did not intend his house be “home base” for sinners and lawbreakers. IIRC, he threw them out.


15 posted on 01/28/2008 11:18:24 AM PST by henkster (The koran is "Mein Kampf" written in funny curlie-Q's)
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To: org.whodat
The pastor may be a loon but the church is real enough. I googled the church name and came up with a piece on the previous confrontation at the UMC website.

Apparently the UMC condones this activity.

And I grow more disillusioned.

16 posted on 01/28/2008 12:00:05 PM PST by pa_dweller (South of the border - a phrase fast losing its meaning)
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To: pa_dweller
You need to look up the actual so called pastor of this store front church, you will find his name and he goes way back in one scam after the other in Chicago.

She sought refuge at the storefront church on Chicago's West Side Aug. 15, 2006. She had not left the church property until deciding to be driven to Los Angeles, Coleman said. :Rev. Walter Coleman, pastor of Adalberto United Methodist,Coleman's wife, Emma Lozano; FROM http://cbs2.com/local/Our.Lady.Queen.2.534796.html

Walter Coleman? Could that be Walter "Slim" Coleman, a longtime left wing activist? Yes, it is.

MORE here:http://newsbusters.org/node/7013

17 posted on 01/28/2008 2:07:25 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=210725#videoid=210725


18 posted on 01/28/2008 6:06:18 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: NormsRevenge
The 28-year-old told reporters at the church Monday that she chose to defy authorities to illustrate the injustice of U.S. immigration laws.

Why doesn't she do that in Mexico? Their immigration policies puts ours to shame. I wish we had ones as strict as Mexico does.

Churches should not be used as a cover for illegal activity. This is not a matter of freedom to worship, or the First Amendment.

19 posted on 01/29/2008 5:11:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: org.whodat
It is not a real Church, the loon that runs it is a far, far, far left whacked out liberal.

Sounds like Obama's "church".

20 posted on 01/29/2008 5:14:00 AM PST by montag813
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