Posted on 01/28/2008 6:28:24 AM PST by mattstat
The short answer, I will disappoint many of you by saying, is no. Like I wrote before, climatologists are generally nice people genuinely struggling with understanding the immense complexities of the oceanic-atmospheric (and space!) system. It might be that many of them are misleading themselves by custom tailoring models to show them what they expect (or desire?) to see, but this has not reached a level where it is done with intent. Most mistakes that are made are honest ones. And it is also true that much has been learned while examining climate models. Still, while scientists are in general noble creatures, there does exists the possibility of them sliding into the abyss.
So suppose, if you are able, that significant man-made climate change is false; further, that it cannot happen, and that all changes to the climate system are due to external forcings, such as those caused by changes in solar output. Just suppose all this is true for the sake of argument.
Now put yourself in the place of a climatologist, one of the many hundreds, in fact, who was involved with the IPCC and so shared in that great validator, the Nobel Peace Prize*.
(Excerpt) Read more at wmbriggs.com ...
Climatology is one of the many fields of Scientology.
It’s not science, it’s religion. Just beleeeeeeve.........
More like sociology.
If "climatology" were really scientific, don't y'all think Al Gore and the IPCC would have won a Nobel Prize in a scientific field instead of in the one area that is -- by definition -- overtly political?
Not so much a pseudo science as a pseudo religion.
No, but honest climatologists are not predicting global warming either. It is the Al Gore crowd that wants us to think that climatology = prediction of man-made climate change.
I folded my arms and said “I believe in the sun”.
Climatology is a real science. Unfortunately many of it’s practicioners have become pseudo-scientists.
Whether a field is psuedo-science or not has nothing to do with whether its practitioners are nice or noble.
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He left out (5) Fudge the data.
I'd say a very large portion of them have become slaves to government funding which requires them to produce pseudoscience.
Although there are many “climatologists” playing like they’re scientists...giving climatology a bad name...climatology is a bona fide science....the study of average weather patterns over time.
And that statement explains why GW is faith-based, rather than science-based.
People wouldn't ask you, for instance, if you believe in gravity. Or if you believe that pi=22/7.
I think that 20 years (maybe less!) or so from now, people will look back on this hysteria and laaaaaaugh. If we haven't been taxed and regulated out of existence by GW opportunist politicians.
No but that doesn’t keep tens/hundreds of thousands of supposely “learned”, intelligent practitioners from constantly being DEAD-WRONG on things like: “Everyone knows that butter is bad for you but margarine is good for you...”, “Everyone knows that fluoride fights cavities and is good for your teeth...”, and on and on...
I’m not sure I agree with the article. If I weed out all of the hype that is generated by the MSM, politicians and arm-chair environmentalists, there is still a noticable element of bias amongst climatologists.
For example, if you research who is performing the “peer reviews” of the published work of climatologists, you’ll find it to be somewhat incestious. It also has become exceedingly difficult to publish papers critical of AGW.
If you review the quality control of the ground-based temperature measurements, you’d be shocked at how anyone can claim to ascertain a fraction of a degree increase over any length of time. The data is largely junk, but in general climatologists won’t tell you that their models should be taken with a grain of salt.
There are honest climatologists who employ the scientific approach. And there are dishonest ones advancing a political agenda.
Slamming climatology for global warming is like blaming guns for committing crimes.
Climatology is not so much a science as it is an application of mathematics.
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