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US mortgage crisis creates ghost town (near Cleveland, Ohio)
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080127183107.ahcwfxrz&show_article=1&image=large ^

Posted on 01/27/2008 5:03:23 PM PST by traumer

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To: nicmarlo; Texas Eagle
that was callous.

Well for the guy who had no feet, undoubtedly.

121 posted on 01/28/2008 1:20:07 AM PST by Erasmus (Native of Gondwanaland)
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To: hinckley buzzard

That is what I was thinking. This is not the Shaker Heights I know!

Shaker Heights is/was very stable and a desired place to live with long standing grand old homes.

Something about this article doesn’t seem right. Might be worth a ‘fact checking’ trip.


122 posted on 01/28/2008 1:34:33 AM PST by EBH ( J. Galt for President)
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To: traumer

Shaker used to be


123 posted on 01/28/2008 2:15:47 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Right Wing Assault

Tax Amount (Semi-Annual): $1,829

That was on a $54,000 (sale price from bank) house.


124 posted on 01/28/2008 2:18:01 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Vigilanteman
Back when I was in grade school, Shaker Heights was held out as a model city of encouraged integration and relative prosperity. What happened?

The Shaker Heights I knew 30 years ago was a middle to upper middle class Jewish community. Not all Jewish of course but many Jewish families there. I'm amazed

125 posted on 01/28/2008 2:21:18 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Vigilanteman
There was a recent incident in Ludlow, a SH neighborhood near the Cleveland border, where a pack of predators attacked a resident (white lawyer, in SH presumably liberal) and beat him severely.

To it's credit the neighborhood is trying to respond, but in their naivety they are targetting "violence" instead of targetting predators.

Actually, it's my old home town of Maple Heights that's been getting all the foreclosure attention. It's been the subject of NY Times and Economist stories lately. Those stories also missed a major point, how MH's city fathers lost well over a thousand manufacturing jobs...using apathy in one case and hostility about "pollution" in another.

-Eric

126 posted on 01/28/2008 3:48:58 AM PST by E Rocc (Resident smartass and Myspace Freepers group moderator.)
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To: traumer
The thing the article didn't mention was the loss of an economic engine in the rust belt (to include NE Ohio). They blame the mortgage lenders, when the other glaring point here is the impact of government regulation on their industry combined with union preference for industrial self-destruction over compromise with management.

Myself, I'd blame what's happening on the unions and years of government over-regulation forcing industry south before I'd blame mortgage lenders.

127 posted on 01/28/2008 3:59:00 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: traumer; Las Vegas Dave

I drove through Shaker Hts a few days ago. What is in this article might exist here & there (like where I live) but overall I saw a lot of very high end homes (as well as modest) in great condition & the normal amount of for sale signs.

Seems like a little sensationalism here implying the entire community is shot.

There is a lot of pride in Shaker Hts which has had it share of difficulty in going from an elitist & wealthy city to semi slum at borders near east Cleveland & then the past couple decades a true attempt to put itself in a positive light & clean up the “problems”


128 posted on 01/28/2008 4:28:57 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Centurion2000

http://www.realtor.com/search/listingdetail.aspx?ctid=85789&typ=2&sid=27665fb087654a3ca08c7e687fa01fca&pg=22&lid=1094379237&lsn=215&srcnt=321#Detail

In my area that’s a bargain.


129 posted on 01/28/2008 4:29:59 AM PST by RockinRight ("Mike Huckabee appeals to the type of person who thinks pro-wrestling is real." - TQC)
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To: Erasmus; Texas Eagle

lol...gosh...someone finally got it. : )


130 posted on 01/28/2008 6:27:52 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Las Vegas Dave

I have 2 homes across the street from me up for foreclosure. Both owners make good money and can well afford the payments but choose not to and are simply walking away from them to move south


131 posted on 01/28/2008 6:41:05 AM PST by boxerblues
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
We know that you have never been to East Saint Louis. Had you been there, you would be typing from the Great Beyond.

Whenever I think of East St Louis, "Vacation" immediately comes to mind:

Ellen: This is so dangerous! We have no business being in an area like this!

Clark: This is a part of America we never get to see.

Ellen: That's good!

Clark: No, that's bad. We can't close our eyes to the plight of the cities. Kids, are you noticing all this plight? This will just make us appreciate what we have.

*Gun Shots*

Clark: Roll 'em up!

132 posted on 01/28/2008 6:48:22 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: balls

“I hope a Cleveland area freeper can give us the true skinny “
I may just have to take a drive over there later! I went to a private school in Shaker Heights. When I was a little kid, S.H. was where you went to see the amazing mansions along Shaker Blvd. It was where you lived if you were rich. All those old money people now live in Gates Mills, Pepperpike and further east. However, there are smaller homes on the side streets that were built in the 30s and 40s. These smaller homes must be the problem. I say smaller, but still very, very nice homes. They’d probably go for 1/2 a mil if they were in Cali!
The demographics of the city have been changing for the last 30 years, as more minorities moved in from Cleveland, East Cleveland, etc..


133 posted on 01/28/2008 6:59:16 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: elpadre
“but did not realize the document she signed included provisions to radically increase the interest rate.” I thought there was a federally mandated requirement for mortgage bankers closing loans to explain the details of the loan and have the borrower sign a document that they understand.

Mrs Dearolddad and I went through the whole loan disclosure routine with the lawyers at closing and we paid cash.

134 posted on 01/28/2008 7:07:53 AM PST by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: vladimir998
Wait. I thought the banks were greedy? Here it sounds more like the people were just stupid. So why do we just blame the corporations? Why doesn’t anyone say, “These people did something stupid”?

I totally agree with your post. Our society has tragically changed into one where you dare not place blame on the person, ever. I am not taking the side of the banks for pushing programs such as these, but when you are going to buy a house, you NEED to read the fine print and know exactly what you are getting yourself into.
135 posted on 01/28/2008 7:10:30 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty ("I am not a neoconservative. I am pro-American." - John Bolton)
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To: traumer

People refinance their homes without even reading the terms of the mortgage?

How did they buy homes in the first place?

Is this story even true?


136 posted on 01/28/2008 7:14:26 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: traumer

I thought Shaker Heights was one of the most exclusive areas to live in the Cleveland area. At least it was back in the late 60’s and early 70’s.


137 posted on 01/28/2008 7:18:56 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: traumer

“Chagrin Street” - apparently named very aptly.


138 posted on 01/28/2008 7:20:38 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: dfwgator

Clark: “Excuse me, um, homes? Can you tell me how to get back on the expressway?”

Ghetto Dude: “F*** yo momma!”

Clark: “Thank you very much.”


139 posted on 01/28/2008 7:27:18 AM PST by RockinRight ("Mike Huckabee appeals to the type of person who thinks pro-wrestling is real." - TQC)
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To: DCPatriot

It’s “OK” now. Some parts are quite nice, others not so much. This story is sensationalist to the nth degree though. There are a few blocks of Shaker Heights, right at the border with the City of Cleveland, that somewhat resemble this article, but most of it is well-maintained and in quite good condition.


140 posted on 01/28/2008 7:29:03 AM PST by RockinRight ("Mike Huckabee appeals to the type of person who thinks pro-wrestling is real." - TQC)
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