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To: MrPiper
"Whats your point?"

I made my point over and over, here it is again since you asked.

Make your vote count. Write in votes do not send a message. Protest votes do not send a message. They are a shallow emotional response that put the Democrats into office. My point is to find a candidate that is actually running for office and vote for the one that closest matches your values.

Do not play a part in putting my family under a Hillary Clinton rule because of an emotional vote rather than a strategic one.

119 posted on 01/27/2008 3:24:25 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: GregoTX; 2ndDivisionVet

< < vote for the one that closest matches your values. > >

Honey, none of them come close to matching my values.

There is no reason to believe Romney became a Conservative, remarkably enough, just in time for an election. He talks conservative now, but if he gets the nomination and looks for Demonrat and independent votes, he will flip once more, back to where he was before.

You are telling me to vote for a RINO because that is what has been chosen for us by the media and by the folks who keep telling us that we will fall into step because we have no where else to go.

Looks like they are right — but if you keep falling into step, then why even make the effort to select someone you already know the “powers that be” won’t choose? If you are willing to “hold your nose” and vote for Romney/Giuliani/McCain/Huckabee then you will be holding your nose year after year...oh, wait. that is what you have been doing. How many of you told me in 2000 that I had to hold my nose and vote for Bush?

Sorry, but there is no substantive difference among them. Giuliani is a social liberal, conservative on most other issues. Huckabee is a social conservative, and liberal on most other issues. McCain is a war hero who hasn’t done much else right, and Romney is so much of a chameleon that I couldn’t tell you what his position is today until I put my finger into the same wind he’s in.

So, you don’t want to “make a statement” this time because a pretend conservative is better than an admitted liberal? You told me to do that in 2004, and I did. You told me that in 2000, and I did. You told me that in 1996. snd I did. Do you see a pattern here? I do. And I won’t.

The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and to expect the results to be different.

Fred Thompson wouldn’t raise his hand, and I won’t hold my nose anymore. Maybe you don’t, but I need to breathe to live. If I keep holding my nose, I won’t be able to breathe.

2nddivisionVet is right. If you won’t make a stand here, you will keep retreating until there is no where left to which to retreat. Either accept the unconditional surrender you are being asked to make, or make your stand.

I’m going to rembember the Alamo - where we were defeated, but the stand we took stopped the enemy long enough that we were able to regroup and defeat him at San Jacinto.

Vote for Fred Thompson in the primary in the hope of getting an open convention where we certainly can’t get anything worse than we are being offered now. maybe we can take care of the general election at the primary, and if not...it’s time to stop retreating.


167 posted on 01/27/2008 8:31:11 PM PST by womanvet (The lesser of two evils is still evil)
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