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To: GregoTX; 2ndDivisionVet

< < vote for the one that closest matches your values. > >

Honey, none of them come close to matching my values.

There is no reason to believe Romney became a Conservative, remarkably enough, just in time for an election. He talks conservative now, but if he gets the nomination and looks for Demonrat and independent votes, he will flip once more, back to where he was before.

You are telling me to vote for a RINO because that is what has been chosen for us by the media and by the folks who keep telling us that we will fall into step because we have no where else to go.

Looks like they are right — but if you keep falling into step, then why even make the effort to select someone you already know the “powers that be” won’t choose? If you are willing to “hold your nose” and vote for Romney/Giuliani/McCain/Huckabee then you will be holding your nose year after year...oh, wait. that is what you have been doing. How many of you told me in 2000 that I had to hold my nose and vote for Bush?

Sorry, but there is no substantive difference among them. Giuliani is a social liberal, conservative on most other issues. Huckabee is a social conservative, and liberal on most other issues. McCain is a war hero who hasn’t done much else right, and Romney is so much of a chameleon that I couldn’t tell you what his position is today until I put my finger into the same wind he’s in.

So, you don’t want to “make a statement” this time because a pretend conservative is better than an admitted liberal? You told me to do that in 2004, and I did. You told me that in 2000, and I did. You told me that in 1996. snd I did. Do you see a pattern here? I do. And I won’t.

The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and to expect the results to be different.

Fred Thompson wouldn’t raise his hand, and I won’t hold my nose anymore. Maybe you don’t, but I need to breathe to live. If I keep holding my nose, I won’t be able to breathe.

2nddivisionVet is right. If you won’t make a stand here, you will keep retreating until there is no where left to which to retreat. Either accept the unconditional surrender you are being asked to make, or make your stand.

I’m going to rembember the Alamo - where we were defeated, but the stand we took stopped the enemy long enough that we were able to regroup and defeat him at San Jacinto.

Vote for Fred Thompson in the primary in the hope of getting an open convention where we certainly can’t get anything worse than we are being offered now. maybe we can take care of the general election at the primary, and if not...it’s time to stop retreating.


167 posted on 01/27/2008 8:31:11 PM PST by womanvet (The lesser of two evils is still evil)
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To: womanvet
APPLAUSE!!

You go girl!!

169 posted on 01/27/2008 10:04:23 PM PST by jellybean (I brought the popcorn for the Battle of The Rinos - Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: womanvet

Spectacular post.

Call me Davey Crockett.


176 posted on 01/28/2008 7:30:07 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Don't blame me; I will write in Thompson.)
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To: womanvet
"Honey, none of them come close to matching my values."

None of them are close? None of them are conservative, but some of them have many conservative values. So none of them agree with you 50%, 60%? If they say they will appoint originalist judges, you dont agree with that? Pro life, you disagree? You disagree with the ones that promote a strong defense? They are all weak on Immigration and Taxes, but they are all better than Hillary.

"If you are willing to “hold your nose” and vote for Romney/Giuliani/McCain/Huckabee then you will be holding your nose year after year...oh, wait. that is what you have been doing."

And what your doing is saying that you are going to vote for someone not even running for President. You think people voting for actual candidates are wasting a vote, and you advocate voting for someone that isn't running for President? Wow.

"How many of you told me in 2000 that I had to hold my nose and vote for Bush?"

So you would have preferred Al Gore? You think the Country would be in better shape with Al Gore than G W Bush? Those were the choices, Bush and Gore. 2000 was a Presidential election, not a Primary, but those were your choices, Bush and Gore. Bush gave us a good Supreme Court, moderate Tax cuts, and a good response to 911. Can you imagine the Supreme Court and Taxes under that idiot Gore??? YES YOU DID THE RIGHT THING IN 2000! Stop regretting it.

"You told me to do that in 2004, and I did. You told me that in 2000, and I did. You told me that in 1996. snd I did. Do you see a pattern here?"

In 2004 the choice was Bush and Kerry, who is better for the Country? In 2000 the choice was Bush and Gore, thats a no brainer choice there. In 1996 we got Clinton over Dole, and we are STILL dealing with those Marxists as a result. So yes I see a pattern, you are trying to keep the Socialist Democrats out, and I'm glad. Again, those are Presidentail elections, not the Primaries.

"Fred Thompson wouldn’t raise his hand, and I won’t hold my nose anymore. Maybe you don’t, but I need to breathe to live. If I keep holding my nose, I won’t be able to breathe."

"Vote for Fred Thompson in the primary in the hope of getting an open convention where we certainly can’t get anything worse than we are being offered now."

So your going to vote for someone not running? No one can stop you from trashing your Primary vote, I just hope the Democrats and the Republicans that think they have to agree 100% with a candidate don't give my Country and my family Hillary for President.

179 posted on 01/28/2008 9:26:05 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: womanvet

Great post!


180 posted on 01/28/2008 10:43:43 AM PST by Shelayne (Come back, Fred!)
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To: womanvet
Thanks for your service

(unless you are a veterinarian and not a veteran)

Good post, thanks.

182 posted on 01/28/2008 10:52:20 AM PST by Syncro
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