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BATTLING FOR BOYS
The New York Post ^ | 01/24/2008 | MARTY NEMKO

Posted on 01/27/2008 7:20:41 AM PST by Harrius Magnus

New York Post

BATTLING FOR BOYS

By MARTY NEMKO

January 24, 2008 -- IN the early 1980s, men and women earned an equal proportion of college degrees. Today, however, women attain 135 degrees for every 100 that men do, the National Center for Education Statistics recently reported. By 2016, it'll be 162 to 100.

Since good jobs increasingly require a degree, that disparity portends disaster for men. And a disaster for half our population is a disaster for everyone.

Why the lack of male college graduates? One main reason is that K-12 education has been made girl-friendly at the expense of boys:

*Competition, a prime motivator for boys, has largely been replaced by "cooperative learning."

*Readings about adventure and heroism are giving way to tales of relationships and heroines.

*Social studies now stress men's ill-doings and women's (and minorities') contributions.

*Today, 91 percent of elementary-school teachers arewomen, the highest level on record. The main male role model most boys see in school is the custodian.

So it shouldn't surprise us that a University of Michigan study found that the number of boys who say they don't like school rose 71 percent from 1980 to 2001.

When boys get home, the lack of positive male role models and the assault on their self-esteem continues: TV portrays most men as buffoons or sleaze bags shown up by wise, confident women.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boys; competition; education
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One of many battles we face. Found this via:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/009766.html

1 posted on 01/27/2008 7:20:43 AM PST by Harrius Magnus
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To: Harrius Magnus

Most of these degrees are in useless studies such as communication, English, and other liberal arts.


2 posted on 01/27/2008 7:23:03 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Boys and girls rule. We’ll do everything in our power to make boys and girls feel worthy.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 7:34:37 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever fully realize.)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Hopefully the infatuation with “degrees” will one day come to an end.


4 posted on 01/27/2008 7:36:34 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Perdogg

Too right, Perdogg. Both your post and the main article. I went to University for two years. All it taught me was that I was a white male hetero scumbag. I started taking some computer science courses, got hired in the industry and haven’t looked back since. Whereas most of the Uni educated people I know are barely employable.


5 posted on 01/27/2008 7:39:16 AM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I do hope you are right. I have met enough people with PhD and Master degrees who could not hold an intelligent conversation, who thought they were incredibly bright and well educated but hadn’t even heard of half the sources I mentioned who refute their claims. Or the degrees are in technology, which don’t really further an employee’s ability to perform, unless they get business training on top of tech training to enter the managerial realm.

I think people like to add the abbreviations of their degrees after their names as a memorial to the alphabet-soup agencies that FDR established and that were emblematic of the coming Leviathan State.

College degrees are quickly becoming nothing more than the credentials needed to preach from the altar of Collectivism.

6 posted on 01/27/2008 7:41:14 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Classrooms were redesigned to accomodate the girl “crisis”.

Now they are going to have to rething what they’ve done, as there is an obvious boy “crisis.”

But since most of the educational staff is made up of empowered liberal women, they refuse to see the crisis and are quite satisfied with drugging boys into submission.


7 posted on 01/27/2008 7:41:14 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Harrius Magnus
Since good jobs increasingly require a degree, that disparity portends disaster for men.

I work for a Fortune 500 company, and unless the job requires specialized training (e.g., engineers) HR does not give consideration to a degree after 10 years from graduation. They are only interested in job experience.

8 posted on 01/27/2008 7:41:39 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: Scotswife

Yep. Well put. I don’t see it though. Liberals and the media are not going to say anything about this disparity.

It is a disparity they think is a good thing.


9 posted on 01/27/2008 7:44:45 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: rlmorel

Some folks are fighting the good fight.

It is something many male educators (the ones who haven’t been emasculated) have been fighting against - but also female educators who actually have sons of their own.

It appears the worst offenders are young childless liberal women - or those who don’t have sons.


10 posted on 01/27/2008 7:47:28 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Harrius Magnus

bump


11 posted on 01/27/2008 7:48:36 AM PST by Diago (http://www.margaretsanger.blogspot.com/)
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To: Harrius Magnus
Along with almost all of the Military Officers I knew at the time I predicted this when the push first started to allow women in the Military academies back in the late 60s and early 70s. We were immediately dubbed 'male chauvinist pigs' for it. It has turned out that even "pig" can be right.

It started at West Point in 1976, the rest of the countries school system followed like lemmings -- and it has been downhill ever since.

12 posted on 01/27/2008 7:50:22 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Scotswife

That’s good to hear that viewpoint...:)


13 posted on 01/27/2008 7:50:39 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Harrius Magnus

the idea that everyone needs to go to college is a huge scam.

now i have an MBA and i have done fine with it, but it took a long time for me to even get near what peers did with fields in the trades.

trade work is physically demanding and it only makes sense that more women would be enrolling in school.

now if they can focus and get degrees in things other than anthropology and psychology, then perhaps one day we’ll even see this so called gender gap in income disappear.


14 posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:28 AM PST by bluedressman
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To: bluedressman

“the idea that everyone needs to go to college is a huge scam.”

a scam that the educrats of the NYS Board of Regents have fallen for.


15 posted on 01/27/2008 8:02:41 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Catholic Canadian
Many,many moons ago I read a small article -- the who, when, where,etc. I don't recall-- but "the message" of that article has struck in my mind like gum on the bottom of your shoe.

In a nutshell: When men* begin leaving some thing (a certain career, profession,college degrees) it is almost always b/c that "thing" is no longer worth the time and trouble it takes.

Maybe it's a genetic thing, that men instinctively tend towards job skills, etc. that has the better chance of supporting a family. In this case a college degree is a perfect example: the fact that fewer and fewer men are getting them should be looked upon as a "mystery" or "tragedy" or some other psycho-babble, but as grim testimony to the increasing worthlessness, the "chic-a-facation" of college degrees. **

Look at those professions once dominated by men that are now seeing experiencing an ever growing number of female practitioners***. It's almost a sure bet its no longer the money making career it once had been. ======================================

* Good grief, of course not all men and not every degree.
** I'm a femme so it's okay for me to say that.
*** And, for heaven sakes!, this is not saying in any way, shape, or form, that female practitioners aren't just as professional as men; merely that the initial, original economic incentive of times gone by is almost certainly no longer there.

16 posted on 01/27/2008 8:17:11 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Harrius Magnus

My wife and I have been noticing for years now, how wimped out this politically correct once great country has become.

Check out the major networks news outlets on daytime tv, all the newscasters and the so called experts they bring in to comment on the news are women. When have you seen
a commercial where the minority male or the white female is the scapegoat or fool? The minority male and the white female are usually doubled up on the foolish white guy, who in ALL cases is the brunt of their superiority!

It’s obvious to us that we are being set up by powers to be in this country who are untouchables...Females and minorities!!

We are seeing direct results of these mind games by the witch from hell itself who is running for president of this once great coutry...

Hey folks, Ya ain’t seen nuthin’ yet...

A white male doesn’t stand a chance in the future, and thats for sure!!


17 posted on 01/27/2008 8:33:12 AM PST by Old Phone Man (ks)
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To: Harrius Magnus

It might also be good to question whether college degrees are as necessary on a resume as they used to be. That is, if a boy can earn a *better* living without a college degree than with it, what motivates him to go to college?

Many universities have evolved into a cross between diploma mills and mandatory paper chases. Much of what is taught is expensive fluff, and what results is not an education so much as student indebtedness for decades.

At some point, major employers will begin to question the entire premise. Since their new hires often need basic skills reeducation, on top of specialized learning unique to that business, all a diploma does is certify incompetence. If a prospective employee can perform at or above standards, their diploma or lack thereof is meaningless.

After this happens, where employers only care about a prospective employees abilities, not their diploma, schools will be faced with a new paradigm: employment insurance.

That is, say a school graduates 500 engineers, 450 of whom are able to find employment *as engineers* within 2 years. In that case, the school has done its job and earned its tuition.

However, if a school graduates 500 engineers, and only 150 of them are able to find employment *as engineers* within 2 years, even in an economic downturn, that school has failed to educate those students to needed standards.

The other 350 students, *or* those who loaned them money, should have the right to demand a rebate for their tuition. And it is right and proper that the school should be punished for not doing its job. But at the same time, schools probably cannot afford such a rebate, so that is why they should be required to purchase “education insurance” for their students.

This would mean that insurers would be motivated to get and keep universities academic standards at the level where their graduates get hired. The insurers would hold the universities feet to the fire.

It would also mean that many graduate programs would end. Graduate programs that produce far greater numbers of Master’s degrees and PhDs than could ever be hired. Unless someone is getting a graduate degree for their own edification, this nonsense should end, or those students should be reimbursed for their expenses.


18 posted on 01/27/2008 8:40:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Perdogg
Most of these degrees are in useless studies such as communication, English, and other liberal arts.

English as "useless?" Well, what if you wanted to be a writer. Are we useless? I don't think so.

19 posted on 01/27/2008 9:07:19 AM PST by Ace's Dad ("but every now and then, the Dragon comes to call")
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To: yankeedame
Good post yankeedame - most of the successful men that I know are employed in skilled trades. If you can believe it - many of us are tending towards pretty staunch Conservatism - it's a newer trend up here in Liberal Canada among men in their 30s. Partly because none of us could be bothered with a University education, partly because we are surrounded by Liberal lunatics and don't like what we see.

It's a trend that is in its infancy up here in Canada, and you wouldn't otherwise have thought, given our country's pathetic slide into leftism, but as it stands, I believe the backlash is starting, especially amongst Canadian men. None of us wants to go to Uni and learn feminist studies and other such wastes of time.

I'm also noticing a trend beginning in some women - I actually met a woman a while back who describes herself as Libertarian - a small step, but encouraging nonetheless, most Canadian women can only be described as radical feminists/borderline lesbian.

20 posted on 01/27/2008 9:11:57 AM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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