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To: saganite

If you look back on my posts on the subject of marijuana over the years I have been in FR, you will see that I am no pro-drug libertarian. I am no pro-drug anything.

However, I am highly (no pun) skeptical of this “study”.

Marijuana smokers have been around a long time. I don’t see pieces of coughed-up lung on the subway, and I ride the NYC subway every day, and I’m sure there’s more than a few potheads riding with me.

This sounds like Reefer Madness to me.


2 posted on 01/27/2008 5:37:33 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

I don’t see coughed up lung myself but what’s that supposed to prove. Good grief, come up with something more substantive than that as an excuse to dismiss the study!


5 posted on 01/27/2008 5:39:35 AM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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To: samtheman

Gotta keep that WOD going, man. The govt relies on the forfeiture incomes now. Cops have excellent second incomes by stealing form the homes they raid and selling the stuff later after stealing it from the evidence room. No way it can ever be stopped, even though it is a complete and total failure on all levels.

The Pharisees of the Public Temple gotta have these issues to prove how superior they are to everyone else.


8 posted on 01/27/2008 5:42:27 AM PST by Seruzawa
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To: samtheman

Heavy drug use, drinkin, smoking.....whatever you abuse and put into your body WILL show in the body. Forty year olds who have lived this lifestyle look sixty. It all adds up, especially when you do all of the above.


9 posted on 01/27/2008 5:44:51 AM PST by tioga (Beware: conservative with back to the wall. Proceed with extreme caution.)
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To: samtheman
> This sounds like Reefer Madness to me.

It is.

Every so often the War-On-Drugs types have to re-justify their own existence.... and it doesn't matter to them what crap study they use to get folks worried again.

Next we'll hear that smoking pot makes your left arm fall off. The fact that nobody actually knows any real person whose left arm fell off due to pot smoking will be ignored....

20 posted on 01/27/2008 5:59:46 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: samtheman

However, I am highly (no pun) skeptical of this “study”.

This sounds like Reefer Madness to me.
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I find the study to be plausible but likely exaggerated to a degree... there is no doubt that inhaling any burned substance is bad for you ,,, however just as a cigarette smoker/nicotine addict can get a fix with an absorbable patch , I think that if marijuana was decriminalized we would see safer usage as the cost would make safer usage cost effective,,, vaporizers that don’t release nearly the amount of toxins , more cooking of marijuana (brownies etc.) to release the active ingredient...

As to the property crimes problem referenced in this thread I seriously doubt that marijuana smokers are a large part of the problem ,, that would be druggies hooked on things with physical cravings and withdrawal symptoms.. METH , crack , crank , morphine , heroin etc.


53 posted on 01/27/2008 6:26:57 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: samtheman
Lets set up government funded taxes paid in full at coyote check points every so many hundred miles along the southern border fence that isn't being built.

Plus, the states can get some high-powered lawyers to file a class action law suit against all the countries shipping pot to the US. That should be good for 900 billion or so to educate all the pot smokers out their with an automated hot line to warn of the dangers.

Then the states can create more government programs for all the illegals and goobermint dependent and 'sophisticated' state pension fund managers loosing billions in junk mortgage bonds?

85 posted on 01/27/2008 7:00:26 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: samtheman

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/index2.htm


110 posted on 01/27/2008 7:26:54 AM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: samtheman

Common sense tells me that inhaling hot smoke and holding it in your lungs for a relatively long time can’t be terribly healthy. People become attached to their vices and defend them regardless of the evidence. To change the subject just a bit (but not much), alcoholics can be in a state of denial about their addiction, as can be drug addicts. People don’t want their vices taken away.


142 posted on 01/27/2008 8:12:02 AM PST by beejaa
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To: samtheman
Marijuana smokers have been around a long time. I don’t see pieces of coughed-up lung on the subway, and I ride the NYC subway every day, and I’m sure there’s more than a few potheads riding with me.

I'm sure there are. OTOH, I doubt any but the most dedicated doper smoke the equvalent of a pack or two a day!

217 posted on 01/27/2008 9:42:11 AM PST by null and void (Does "I don't remember" Hillary!™ have Alzheimer's? She needs to release her medical records now!)
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To: samtheman

If you attended college in the 70’s, you would be aware of a malady called “Bong Throat” or “Bong Cough”. It was pretty nasty.


241 posted on 01/27/2008 10:02:54 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: samtheman
This sounds like Reefer Madness to me.

I don't do drugs but I have to agree.

What's missing from the article is any reference to how common this disease is. Yes, marijuana smokers may get it 20 years sooner but if there are only 4 cases in the U.S. annually then who cares. The fact that they left this "vital statistic" out speaks volumes for me.

242 posted on 01/27/2008 10:03:29 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: samtheman

it is BS.........unlike tobacco, marijuana is degradeable


246 posted on 01/27/2008 10:05:03 AM PST by advertising guy (my Sleep Number Bed is 9..........................................Budweisers....)
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To: samtheman

I smoked pot in the idiocy of my youth. Pot smokers inhale more deeply, and hold it in longer, so this study makes sense to me.

The people I know that continued to smoke pot are in much poorer health and have passed on at earlier ages.


250 posted on 01/27/2008 10:08:23 AM PST by DLfromthedesert (Michael Steele for VP)
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To: samtheman

I gave up weed long ago because it reminded me of the Sixties. Otherwise, I have good, productive friends who smoke it daily, occasionally, or once a year. I don’t want the State to bother them. One the health side of the issue, I would never smoke dope if I were to resume the drug. I would fry it up in some scrambled eggs. It’s best to leave the lungs alone...and the kidneys...and the heart...and the liver...


355 posted on 01/27/2008 11:51:32 PM PST by ashtanga
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