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Clock ticking for Kim's Korea (Kim ready to pack up?)
Jane's ^ | 01/24/08

Posted on 01/25/2008 2:20:10 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Clock ticking for Kim's Korea

24 January 2008

Kim Jong-Il's regime could collapse within six months, bringing chaos to North Korea, observers and intelligence sources in Asia have told Jane's.

A joint United States report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies and the US Institute for Peace has also revealed that China has "contingency plans" in the event of North Korea's implosion. The report, entitled 'Keeping an Eye on an Unruly Neighbor', said that China was prepared to "take the initiative" and had a military strategy for securing North Korea's "loose nukes" should Kim Jong-Il's rule fail.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200806; axisofevil; condirice; csis; financialassets; hill; kimjongil; korea; nk; nkorea; northkorea; regimecollapse; rice
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Tellingly, the 'Dear Leader' is in the process of moving financial resources to ensure that his assets are portable should he have to go into exile, according to some sources.

If true, this is a significant development. At the least, he activiated his contingency plan. So I suspect things are not going Kim's way.

There are some troubling signs reported in S. Korean media.

They are hunkering down and keep population on real short leash. I think they could go for one last shot. A engineered provocation which they hope spook S. Korea, U.S., and China back to appeasement on the previous level.

If that fails, Kim Jong-il may figure that he has to prepare for the worst.

1 posted on 01/25/2008 2:20:15 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/25/2008 2:20:57 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ummmmm...

CSIS and US Institute For Peace — don’t think I’m ready to bet the rent on this one.....


3 posted on 01/25/2008 2:25:32 AM PST by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Uncle Ike
Click the link and read further. It has other information.

CSIS report is basically the old info recycled. I am curious about its timing, though.

4 posted on 01/25/2008 2:30:50 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Uncle Ike
Viewed from another angle, the recent media report on N. Korea’s possible collapse could be part of an orchestrated campaign to rattle Kim’s cage, now that Kim does have lots of problem at hand.
5 posted on 01/25/2008 2:39:09 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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” report on N. Korea’s possible collapse could be part of an orchestrated campaign to rattle Kim’s cage, “

We’ve been seeing premature reports of Kimmie’s demise for quite a while, now, and given the NCIS penchant for including large dollops of wishful thinking in its analyses, I think I’ll remain in ‘waitfully watching’ mode... ;~)

I do, however, find the reference to ‘loose nukes’ intriguing — with its implication that there actually may be operational weapons in NK, putting the lie to the characterization of Kimmie as a toothless tiger after the infamous ‘fizzle’ test....


6 posted on 01/25/2008 2:48:56 AM PST by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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“The Central Intelligence Agency predicted the collapse of North Korea within five years.”
The C.I.A. couldn’t predict the demise of the Soviet Union.
The same C.I.A. that tried to do in the Iraqi war?
So much money goes to this agency for so few good results.


7 posted on 01/25/2008 2:56:24 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Uncle Ike

” given the NCIS “

Make that “CSIS” ...

(That’s what I get for having the TV going in the background...)


8 posted on 01/25/2008 3:20:28 AM PST by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Well, Tiger, if Kim has money and a way to skedaddle from North Korea he still is in pretty poor health and where does he go, Africa?

What happens with a power vacuum in North Korea; do we see a war among the generals of the Army? Do the Chinese come in and effectively make North Korea a colonial possession?

What is your opinion, please?

9 posted on 01/25/2008 3:27:55 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China blocked shipping of food and grain into N. Korea since the beginning of this year. Usually, when this kind of report comes out, there used to be another report disputing it. This time there is no such report now. The shipping must have been indeed blocked. This includes China’s food export and international food aids procured in China.

Perhaps this is due to the food shortage in China? The reason is that the Chinese have added more items for their price control in order to reduce inflation.

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/content.asp?contentid=191991
But price control => shortage of food as more is going to the black market.

The poor in the interior of China have problem in paying for food.


10 posted on 01/25/2008 3:39:05 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: Joe Boucher

According to various source, the WMD entities were moved to Syria. They had plenty of time to do so.


11 posted on 01/25/2008 3:49:06 AM PST by Wiz
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I know. Still if China finds it important to prop up N. Korea, it could set aside some for food aids. It won’t be much compared to annual food consumption of China.
12 posted on 01/25/2008 5:00:39 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
If Kim goes into exile, he would probably go to China or Russia. At one point Swiss was also mentioned.

Factions will vie for power. A faction will include party officials, generals, and security agents. If a faction feel that it is about to lose out, it may reach out to outside player for help. That would be different from any N. Korean power struggles in the past. It will drag in outside players, one way or another.

Without sufficient objection from S. Korea or U.S., China will try to install a puppet regime in N. Korea and may well succeed.

13 posted on 01/25/2008 5:05:27 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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t China was prepared to "take the initiative" and had a military strategy for securing North Korea's "loose nukes" should Kim Jong-Il's rule fail

I don't think that's China's real motive. They can't stand the possibility of a reunited democratic Korea right on their border. That would be worse for them than having a free Taiwan or Hong Kong.

14 posted on 01/25/2008 5:13:44 AM PST by hellbender
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Kim falls, China steps in to assure order, grabs all nukes for themselves. China does not want to run Korea, too many headaches, but can use this to eliminate a threat.

They agree to reunify Korea under the south’s government, on condition unified Korea becomes neutral and U.S. troops leave. South Korea is nominally independent and neutral, but becomes economically a Chinese vassal.

The Chinese only have to wait for Hillary to take the White House and it becomes possible for a few suitcases full of cash.


15 posted on 01/25/2008 5:16:16 AM PST by henkster (The koran is "Mein Kampf" written in funny curlie-Q's)
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To: AdmSmith
The poor in the interior of China have problem in paying for food.

The poor in America are fat and own DVD players and color TV's they bought from Walmart, shipped in from China! Take that, Chairman Mao!

16 posted on 01/25/2008 5:16:55 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: hellbender
Yes, they are serious about maintaining their foothold in Korean Peninsula.
17 posted on 01/25/2008 5:18:44 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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They are hunkering down and keep population on real short leash

Poor choice of words: http://www.kimsoft.com/1997/eat-dog.htm


18 posted on 01/25/2008 5:24:26 AM PST by ninonitti
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To: ninonitti
Well, nice to know that the commie loser Lee Wha Rang is still around. I wonder how he looks like and where he lives.
19 posted on 01/25/2008 5:30:29 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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Didn’t know his background.....how ‘bout this guy:

http://wolf.ok.ac.kr/~annyg/

or am I barking up the wrong tree?


20 posted on 01/25/2008 5:38:00 AM PST by ninonitti
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