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Who Said Freddy's Dead? (Hope for Fredheads?)
Real Clear Politics ^ | January 24, 2008 | Kevin Stark

Posted on 01/24/2008 4:55:53 AM PST by Scarchin

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If McCain loses in Florida, the Republicans may well be headed to a deadlocked race and convention. And history teaches us that the likeliest candidate to emerge in that scenario is someone like Warren G. Harding: the prototypical, less-than-stellar candidate to which conventions turn when the going gets rough.

This year's Harding? Believe it or not (are you sitting down?), despite the fact that he's withdrawn from the race, is Fred Thompson.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


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KEYWORDS: fred; fredthompson
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To: Scarchin

Drowning...grasping at straws. Waste of time. Fuggetaboutit.


41 posted on 01/24/2008 5:34:54 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Cincinatus

Who Said Freddy’s Dead?
“Curtis Mayfield.”

Even to me, a Fred supporter, I have to admit; that’s funny.


42 posted on 01/24/2008 5:41:31 AM PST by romanesq
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I think the ONLY way to slow down McCain, and keep him from becoming the "frontrunner" is to have Rudy win Florida.

Even if Mitt wins Florida, as you said, that does not slow down McCain. Mitt is not going to win NY and NJ, either Rudy or McCain will depending on who wins Florida. After Super Tuesday (and maybe after Florida) it will either be Mitt vs McCain (and I think in that battle McCain wins easily) or Mitt vs Rudy (in which Mitt has a chance because Rudy was wounded in the early primaries).

Regardless of the delegate count right now, McCain is the strongest going in, only because Rudy is weak. Rudy and McCain share too many of the same voters to keep them both viable. So my advice to FredHeads in Florida, who want to slow down McCain, is to vote Rudy and not Mitt!

43 posted on 01/24/2008 5:45:31 AM PST by codercpc (On the day abortion becomes illegal, I want to Thank God, and not praise allah)
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To: Just mythoughts

“There is NO evidence, NONE whatsoever that McCain is against anything Hillary.”

Right! Hillary would beat McCain, but if McCain did happen to win we would still have a liberal in the White House!


44 posted on 01/24/2008 5:45:53 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: GraniteStateConservative

“Any scenario except a Rudy win in FL, means that McCain wins NY and NJ, which are winner take all. That allows he and Romney to be the two remaining candidates and one of them will end up with a majority of delegates.”

Thanks for wrapping up the bow and putting this in context. The media would love to see the Republican party split asunder. Would guarantee their candidate of little experience, Shrillary or Obama gets a smooth ride.

Of course it’s great to get this from the GraniteState. :)


45 posted on 01/24/2008 5:49:11 AM PST by romanesq
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To: seekthetruth

If McCain does happen to get the GOP nod, he will move leftward to gain more Independents and Liberals. [He abandoned the real conservatives along time ago, and chances are, he won’t be able to regain their confidence and votes.]

Ironically, if Clinton does get the Dem nod, she will move rightward to gain more Independents and Moderates.

They could pass each other, politically. By November, McCain could show up as the liberal and Clinton as the conservative.


46 posted on 01/24/2008 6:10:08 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Scarchin

With all due respect to Fredheads, do we want to run a candidate who dropped out and has been roundly criticized internally, even here by Fredheads, for not running a good campaign? I anticipate an answer might be, yes rather than the RINOs we have left. I respect that answer from those who believe in the all or nothing sit at home approach even if it means Hillary. But for those of us who have not reached that point, who would take almost anyone but Hillary, is this a good idea?


47 posted on 01/24/2008 6:15:02 AM PST by enough_idiocy (Romney/Thompson or Steele '08)
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To: Clara Lou
his withdrawal statement was only 45 words and short on everything....

Yes, it was very odd, especially for a man like Fred. One thing is for sure, Fred, or someone like him, has to be somewhere on the ticket or the pubbies will be shut down in November.

48 posted on 01/24/2008 6:16:36 AM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: TomGuy

If McCain was the nominee and Obama bet Hillary, It would not surprise me to see McCain and Hillary team up to run against Obama and his running mate!


49 posted on 01/24/2008 6:26:32 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: HerrBlucher

There’s only one conservative left in the GOP field: Dr. Alan Keyes.


50 posted on 01/24/2008 6:28:32 AM PST by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - "Alan, you stood tall." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Scarchin

Now they are tormenting us. Not nice.

I’m not gonna hold my breathe.


51 posted on 01/24/2008 6:41:18 AM PST by aj7360
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To: Scarchin
Who Said Freddy's Dead?

Curtis Mayfield?

52 posted on 01/24/2008 6:42:26 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: aj7360

I am going to vote for Fred, regardless of whether he is on the ballot.

Send the message.


53 posted on 01/24/2008 6:52:40 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (At kaki metumtam, Rudy McRomnabee)
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To: nuconvert

Would a two young guys ticket make you happy? Edwards & Obama? Age should be a non issue here.


54 posted on 01/24/2008 7:07:03 AM PST by toomuchcoffee
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To: Scarchin

Nice thought, but with the field narrowed down, I don’t think we’ll see a brokered convention unless Rudy can muster some enthusiasm and pick up some steam to compete with Rommey and McCain. Otherwise, it’ll be one of those two.


55 posted on 01/24/2008 7:25:14 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Geek Squad -- if you're desperate and don't need a PC for over a month, we'll get around to it.)
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To: toomuchcoffee

“Would a two young guys ticket make you happy?”

It isn’t what makes me happy that’s important. It’s what voters will vote for. People look for what they believe is a balanced ticket, and looks and age do come into play, whether you like it or not.
I’m just being realistic.


56 posted on 01/24/2008 7:33:57 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: nuconvert

2 old guys? Of the last ten presidents, only two were less than 54 when they were elected - JFK and Bill Clinton. Of course, Clinton’s second co-presidency would start when he is 61.5...oops. sorry, I forgot Carter who was a bit over 52. (G-d is great. He let me forget)

Less than one-third of our presidents were under 54 when first elected, and fewer than half were under 60 when they retired. It is not a young man’s job. The younger ones are not a really distinguished group (Clinton - 1st co-presidency, Kennedy, Garfield, Pierce, Polk) The one exception is the youngest - TR...but I don’t see a TR on the horizon, do you?

FRed is not older than the baby boomers, fellers. He just didn’t go the botox route.


57 posted on 01/24/2008 7:37:47 AM PST by womanvet (The lesser of two evils is still evil)
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To: EternalVigilance

Field?

Sorry - more like “out to pasture.”


58 posted on 01/24/2008 7:48:26 AM PST by Scarchin (Romney/Thompson 2008)
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To: womanvet

The subject was McCain -who would be the oldest man elected, and Thompson, who would look like the oldest man elected. I’m sorry, but people vote with their eyes.
People like a balanced ticket, politically and physically.
I think A Romney/Thompson ticket would achieve that rather well (though I’m not a big fan of Romney)


59 posted on 01/24/2008 7:50:07 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: MeanWestTexan

To whom?


60 posted on 01/24/2008 7:51:56 AM PST by Scarchin (Romney/Thompson 2008)
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