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With Thompson Out, Who Benefits Most?
Washington Post ^ | 1/21/08 | Chris Cilizza

Posted on 01/23/2008 8:11:24 AM PST by freespirited

...What's clear is that with Thompson out, the crowd on the ideological right grows less crowded.

The exit polls from the Palmetto State underscore Thompson's appeal to the most conservative GOP voters. Among the voters who described themselves as "very conservative" Huckabee led the way with 41%, but Thompson claimed 22% percent (McCain placed third with 19% followed by Romney with 16%).

"Based on South Carolina, a state that Thompson worked pretty hard, his departure would seem to help Huckabee and Romney probably more so than McCain," said Neil Newhouse, an [unaffiliated] Republican pollster..

Given Thompson's strengths with very conservative voters and evangelicals, it seems as though Huckabee should be the obvious beneficiary. But Huckabee hasn't won a contest since Iowa, and his dearth of cash raises real questions about whether he will be able to capitalize on Thompson's departure in Florida.

Enter Romney who is campaigning hard for the votes of conservatives in Florida and [who] will almost certainly spend the most money on reaching voters in the Sunshine State. ... Thompson's departure coupled with Huckabee's uncertain commitment to the state give the former Massachusetts governor the best chance he's had yet.

While Thompson's exit could well help Romney or Huckabee in the short run, his departure could accrue to McCain's benefit in the long-term battle for the nomination. ..

... The Post's last national poll suggests that McCain may gain a very slight boost from Thompson's departure. If Thompson is eliminated and his supporters' second choices are re-allocated, that poll showed McCain leading the Republican field with 30% -- 2% higher than he received with Thompson included in the ballot test. The only other candidate to make gains with the reallocation of Thompson supporters was Giuliani, who went from 15% with Thompson in to 18% with him out.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


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To: McGruff

Yes, I’m looking hard at Romney. I don’t like what I’m seeing in Huckabee (his smoking ban and gov’t insurance). McCain scares me (for what reason I don’t know...just instinct). And Ron Paul’s isolationist ideas, while I like some of them, won’t be good for our economy.


41 posted on 01/23/2008 8:48:21 AM PST by hoe_cake
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To: what_not2007
From what I have seen on the Internet polls including this site it looks like Romney will get over 50% of Freds voters. Next is stay at home or none of the above. After that its split among the other candidates.

Our family has switched to Mitt.

42 posted on 01/23/2008 8:51:33 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer
Our family has switched to Mitt.

ditto

43 posted on 01/23/2008 8:55:57 AM PST by FightforFreedomCA (Fred Storm Rising - Thompson in '08 ...sorry to see you go Fred :()
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To: nckerr

I think you are missing the point. Rational people know that Southern baptists don’t handle snakes and speak in tongues. But if Huck get the nod, the MSM will find one quacky southern baptist church that does and try to represent it as “all” southern Baptist churches.

Sucks, but I can see that happening.


44 posted on 01/23/2008 8:57:11 AM PST by SkiHatGuy
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To: nckerr

Tell it to the main stream media, not me. Read my post again.

JP


45 posted on 01/23/2008 9:00:37 AM PST by EscapedDutch (I spent $5,000 to become a LEGAL resident of the US. If illegals get amnesty, I demand a refund!)
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To: Parley Baer

Hasn’t Romney flipped a bit though?

I don’t like his anti-gun stand.


46 posted on 01/23/2008 9:05:43 AM PST by hoe_cake
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To: nckerr
Huckabee may not be perfect, but he is the only authentic conservative left.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

47 posted on 01/23/2008 9:16:21 AM PST by VRWCmember (Romney 2008 - The most palatable RINO left in the race)
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To: nckerr
"Huckabee may not be perfect, but he is the only authentic conservative left."

I agree.

48 posted on 01/23/2008 9:18:03 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SkiHatGuy
"the MSM will find one quacky southern baptist church that does and try to represent it as “all” southern Baptist churches."

I don't think so. They might try, but it would cause an uproar if they did it in the context of a national election.

Plus there are too many of us. Most people know what Southern Baptists are really like. And don't forget that there are a lot of old school southern democrats identify with Baptists and might switch rather than put Hillary or Obama in office.

49 posted on 01/23/2008 9:22:02 AM PST by DannyTN
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All I know is, I will be voting for anyone running against HRC.

I mean anyone.


50 posted on 01/23/2008 10:01:54 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Greg F

Switch2Mitt


51 posted on 01/23/2008 10:10:05 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number1FredHeadSwitch2Mitt)
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To: nckerr

With Fred dropping, I’m left with Mitt as the best of what’s left.

Anyone that thinks Huckster is an authentic conservative needs to look up the term “limited government”.

Just because the guy prays doesn’t make him “conservative”.

Heck, I’ll even take McCain over Huckabee.... at least McCain understands what a conservative is SUPPOSED to SOUND like ( Now if his past votes only matched up with what his rhetoric in the debates has been).


52 posted on 01/23/2008 10:13:47 AM PST by Grumpy_Mel (Humans are resources - Soilent Green is People!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
This doesn't make sense to me. Thompson was at better than 10% in the poll. Unless most of his supporters said they had NO 2nd place, it seems all the other candidates should have gone up by a total of 10% or more. But they only showed a total of 5% boost in other candidates.

Good point. Depending on when the poll was taken, maybe a couple percentage points went to Duncan Hunter and they didnt include him because he has now dropped out? But I cant imagine that would explain the entire 5 pct points. Something is not right, or a lot of Fred folks had no second choice.

53 posted on 01/23/2008 10:18:38 AM PST by freespirited (Still a proud member of the Stupid Party. It beats the Evil Party any day of the week.)
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To: Greg F

I believe a vote for Giuliani would only help McCain in Florida. I was with Fred as long as he was in this race and at the same time I thought about whom my second choice would be if things didn’t go my way. I think those who are counting on voting in a certain way to make the nominee chosen at the convention are wrong. It would only help McCain to win the nomination. I have considered all of the options and have made what I believe to be a quality decision. I will be voting for Mitt Romney next Tuesday.


54 posted on 01/23/2008 10:23:26 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: stocksthatgoup

Switch to Mitt . . . see tagline. No way.


55 posted on 01/23/2008 10:24:22 AM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: Grumpy_Mel

Nah, Mitt will blow with the wind and the wind created by the media and the establishment blows to the left. He’s not the man.


56 posted on 01/23/2008 10:25:13 AM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: Scarchin

What do you think he should have done differently?


57 posted on 01/23/2008 10:59:56 AM PST by murron
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To: Greg F

One of the problems I have with Mitt is he is always on defense. I believe that is what lost the election for George Allen. He allowed himself to be put on defense for the Macacah comment, and it made him look weak. Whoever runs against Hillary in the general will always be put on defense by her campaign. Look what she’s doing to Obama. Whoever is the Republican candidate had better stay on offense and keep her on defense, and I don’t see Romney doing that. I did see Fred doing that.


58 posted on 01/23/2008 11:06:53 AM PST by murron
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To: murron

The big problem with a brokered convention is that the Dems will have a fortune to plaster the airwaves with negative ads once the choice is made to try to define the Republican nominee. We will need to have cash and organization at the ready to combat that.


59 posted on 01/23/2008 11:10:31 AM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: freespirited

Idealogical right is “less crowded”? How about “Nonexistent”?

Re-draft Duncan Hunter into the Presidential Race
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1958247/posts


60 posted on 01/23/2008 11:32:23 AM PST by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter)
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