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Thompson's Drop out probably benefits Huckabee most
Tribune-Review ^ | salena zito

Posted on 01/22/2008 12:48:23 PM PST by Salena Zito

Good news for Huckabee TRIBUNE-REVIEW Salena Zito Posted January 22, 2008 3 :00 PM

Democratic strategist John Lapp said, "On first blush, it would seem that (Mike) Huckabee is the main beneficiary of Fred Thompson's withdrawal. Huckabee, Thompson and, to a lesser degree, Mitt Romney were splintering the hard core, evangelical, social conservative vote. With Thompson's withdrawal, Huckabee has the chance to consolidate the far right. However, if Thompson endorses John McCain, that would be a nice conservative credential to have, considering McCain has been struggling with the mainline conservative Republican base."

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; fl2008; florida; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gop; huckabee; mccain; romney; salenazito; thompson; zito
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

I’m starting to think that RINO is a term for a Republican that you do not like. And you can define that person as you want to placate your animosity towards that person.


141 posted on 01/22/2008 1:32:14 PM PST by tortdog
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To: rocksblues

My bad!


142 posted on 01/22/2008 1:32:42 PM PST by tortdog
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To: Salena Zito

Sigh -—

So wrong it’s sad.

When only REPUBLICANS vote in REPUBLICAN primaries, Romney crushes Huckster.


143 posted on 01/22/2008 1:33:52 PM PST by Scarchin (Romney/Thompson 2008)
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To: bankwalker

Ditto that!!!!


144 posted on 01/22/2008 1:34:37 PM PST by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Btw, I find it remarkable how many Fredheads swore all up and down the place that they would never vote for another, and now see so many falling over themselves for Kennedy’s pal Romney.

You didn't see that from me. I've been around the block enough times to know that the person you are trashing today may be the one you need tomorrow.

145 posted on 01/22/2008 1:35:11 PM PST by gridlock (Proud Romney Supporter since January 20, 2008)
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To: Salena Zito

Huckabee would be the polar opposite of what this Fred voter thinks. Can’t wait to see the new FR poll on this one.


146 posted on 01/22/2008 1:35:27 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: RedRover

You put into words what I was thinking. lol


147 posted on 01/22/2008 1:36:39 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

More here on the Conservative Case Against John McCain.
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Thanks. I hope someone points this out in the upcoming debate. McCain’s oft unchallenged and sanctimonious claims that he is nothing but a straight talker is getting a bit old.


148 posted on 01/22/2008 1:40:59 PM PST by Rumierules
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To: the808bass
"If you can find me 5 out 100 Fred supporters who are going to Huckabee, I’ll eat my shorts."

I could not agree more...Shmukabee is pure BS with some Bill Clinton sprinkled on top. Not what Thompson is... What boggles my mind is the amount of educated individuals who I've spoken with lately who have no clue who the (R) candidates even are.

149 posted on 01/22/2008 1:41:19 PM PST by oust the louse (Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200. 00 and a substantial tax cut saves you $0.30?)
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To: tortdog

I’m Jewish and I don’t have a problem with his beliefs. It’s a Christian country, Christmas is a national holiday and I don’t want to change that (just like I don’t want any Christian to change the fact that Israel is a Jewish country)


150 posted on 01/22/2008 1:42:31 PM PST by ari-freedom (The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government)
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To: ari-freedom
Huck’s problem is that he is a LIBERAL, not because he’s pro-life or against gay marriage.

Yeah, I suppose.

From my vantage point, Huckabee is a show-off Christian first, and a campaigner for US President second.

He is such a nice guy, but he is already too close to violating the Establishment Clause in the Constitution -- which is an important concept which has kept America from fighting among denominations for the past 250 years.

151 posted on 01/22/2008 1:44:23 PM PST by Edit35
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To: ari-freedom

I’d argue that we are a sectarian country based on Judeo-Christian principles.


152 posted on 01/22/2008 1:45:34 PM PST by tortdog
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To: gridlock; bigjoesaddle

I would prepare to not be surprised if Thompson endorses McCain. Endorsements do not have that great an impact— Thompson made it clear where he stood on the issues, I think saying “FU” to a guy who at least attempted to provide conservatives with a candidate to vote for is a little harsh. I mean, Hunter said he “liked” Huckabee & McCain as candidates...


153 posted on 01/22/2008 1:46:08 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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To: samtheman

I’m considering Huckabee and Ron Paul, admittedly not without cringing at the thought of supporting either of them.

My two biggest issues are being against abortion and gun control. I don’t buy into Romney’s “change of heart” on abortion or gun grabbing. I don’t consider Romney to be all that much better than Huckabee on most issues important to conservatives and think they are about equally trustworthy (They’re both lying, flip flopping RINOs, but at least Huckabee has been consistent on the two previously mentioned issues). I will not vote for Romney under any circumstances so I’m afraid I’m stuck with the idiot snake oil salesman or the kook libertarian. Of course I won’t be all that active supporting either of them, if that makes you feel better.

I won’t support Romney because I’ve been slapped around one too many times by the Republican party in supporting the least objectionable candidate “who can win.” This year was my line in the sand for the Republicans to put up or shut up and it looks like they didn’t put up. Maybe after four more years of another Clinton co-presidency the Republican party will pull its head out its collective butt and support conservatives. Until then, I’m going to fulfill my religious duty to vote for someone who supports ending the slaughter of innocent children as well as try to keep what’s left of my right to bear arms.

I’m betting that if Romney does happen to win it’s going to be a long four years of everyone whining that he isn’t as conservative as they thought he was, not unlike our current RINO-in-Chief.


154 posted on 01/22/2008 1:47:12 PM PST by Thoramir
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To: hadaclueonce
I will never vote for Huckabee.

I'm a reluctant Huckabee supporter. For now, he is the candidate least objectionable to me. Which is not saying much.

Can you please tell me why you would say "I will not vote for..."? Never-mind if you can't vote for him on principle. I can understand that. But why would you say it? What advantage does it give you to reveal your position? I don't see how you can persuade people that way.

We should stick to arguments for and against our candidates instead of firewalling our opponents with feelings. We should attempt to provoke intellectual responses instead of emotional ones. A few fellow FReepers have cast doubts and concerns in my mind about Huckabee. But then so many others make me so angry that it is hard to contemplate alternatives. It seems that very few have made positive overtures for their candidates. That may be because of human nature's inclination to the negative and/or my own ignorant blindness to it.

Know Thyself

"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates

Romans 12
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

155 posted on 01/22/2008 1:48:38 PM PST by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: the808bass
Bass writes... If you can find me 5 out 100 Fred supporters who are going to Huckabee, I’ll eat my shorts.

My FRiend, I believe you are quite safe with that statement.

Who benefits most from Fred's departure?

I go along with the Romney bunch, here.

Not many GOP voters were choosing between Fred and Huck, however I think many were choosing between Fred and Mitt, with Fred being more easily identified with core conservative values.

Rudy and (cough, cough) McCain lack the conservative bona fides of Mitt, so Fred followers will more than likely gravitate to Mitt.

Is Mitt as conservative as most here would like? Of course not. (Health care, etc)

But right now, he's THE conservative in the GOP primary race.

I should get my primary ballot in the mail this week, and I'm leaning heavily toward Mitt.

Although I will absolutely support and vote for whomever is the winner of the GOP nomination.

156 posted on 01/22/2008 1:49:13 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: littlehouse36

You are kidding, right?


157 posted on 01/22/2008 1:51:05 PM PST by Bruinator ("It's the Media Stupid.")
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To: samtheman

Sorry, I replied to the wrong person. My post was intended to be a reply to 808thebass, not quite sure how I messed that one up.


158 posted on 01/22/2008 1:51:39 PM PST by Thoramir
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To: Salena Zito
I was a Thompson supporter. No way will I support Huckabee. I consider myself a Christian but Huckabee’s ‘change the Constitution to match the Bible’ stance was way out of line. I will support Romney for now. It will be interesting to see where the Thompson supporters go...but I don’t think they will go to Huckabee. Anybody who liked Huckabee is already supporting him.
159 posted on 01/22/2008 1:52:42 PM PST by goldfinch
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To: Thoramir

I posted this on a different thread. Here it is for you:

One of the things that I like about Mitt, a sort of litmus test with me that makes him different than Huckabee and McCain in a very substantive way, is that he will NOT close GITMO and I am under the impression he would NOT shy away from using waterboarding to save American lives. To my mind that is an extremely large issue because it says a lot about the THINKING of the candidate.

If a candidate can’t understand the need for GITMO, and can’t understand the POSSIBILITY of the need for waterboarding, then he’s just not my kind of candidate.


160 posted on 01/22/2008 1:53:02 PM PST by samtheman
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