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Please do not shoot the messenger.

I am a Conservative. My first choice would be Fred Thompson, but I am also capable of defending Rudy, in the unlikely chance he gets the nomination.

I see the same conservatism in Rudy that Prager sees - always have. I chalk up his socially liberal positions to the practicalities of having to be elected, and effectively govern, an overwhelmingly Liberal and heavily immigrant like New York City.

Point's probably moot, though. His strategy seems to have failed, though, in truth, it wasn't really a choice; it was really the only strategy he had available to him. Even if he had campaigned in the early primary states, he really had no shot to win them, and would have been broke and gone long before Florida - the first contest he would have a real chance to win.

1 posted on 01/22/2008 4:51:54 AM PST by StatenIsland
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As George Will wrote on behalf of Giuliani, “The way to change abortion law is to change courts by means of judicial nominations of the sort Giuliani promises to make.” It is extremely unlikely that John McCain would appoint similarly conservative judges. After all, why would he appoint judges like Scalia and Alito who apparently differ with him on the constitutionality of McCain’s own “campaign finance reform” laws?

Pro-life Republicans need to ask themselves: Will a Democrat or Giuliani as president render abortion less common in America? The best is the enemy of the better. And Giuliani is far better on abortion than any Democratic nominee.


That’s the whole kettle of fish in a nutshell.


27 posted on 01/22/2008 6:42:12 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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Sorry, there is no case to be made for Rudy: I will NOT vote for Rudy. <-— Notice the period


28 posted on 01/22/2008 6:48:30 AM PST by AFreeBird (Fred 08)
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Yes, McCain is extremely, and openly hostile to Conservatives. He hates us, and has said so many times. He is campaigning against us, and campaigning for liberals, using liberal speak. He uses his buds in the liberal press against us, and the President. He uses the MSM FOR his friends, the liberals, in the Senate, he flirted with Kerry for VP, during wartime, FGS.

FR may hate RG, but he does not hate us, has not vowed to work against us, hasn’t stabbed the President in the back, has campaigned for prolife, social conservatives since 98, and certainly is not running a liberal campaign, quite the opposite.

If the Mayor opens up on McCain for his weakness in the WOT, torture, his pussyfooting with the ACLU about Gitmo, (RG does hate the ACLU,lol), and reminds voters that McCain is running with the NYT in his back pocket, he could make some headway. Who knows.

29 posted on 01/22/2008 6:52:51 AM PST by roses of sharon
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"Please do not shoot the messenger."

Don't worry. If Giuliani is elected, most of the guns I have will be banned.

32 posted on 01/22/2008 7:15:38 AM PST by RabidBartender
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You forgot to put (Barf Alert). Where do I start, Abortion, Gun control, ethics issues. Rudy is a law and order liberal, but a liberal nonetheless.


33 posted on 01/22/2008 7:18:55 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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Isn’t this special? The Rooty Roosters are back to make one last push for their limp wristed Chicken Hawk.


36 posted on 01/22/2008 7:23:30 AM PST by Kuksool (Giuliani avoided the early primaries in the same manner that he avoided Vietnam service)
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As one who has been following (and fighting) terrorism since the early eighties, I am mostly a single issue voter. I want a President who can articulate THE issue of our time, not be afraid to call it what it IS and DO something about it!

I believe it is an especially critical time in our history when many issues should not be the main issues in a Presidential race. It does not mean they are not important but that we should think of other ways of dealing with them and focus on our security.

I support Rudy now because, not only does HE GETS IT,  he can also best articulate the most important issue of our time--our National Security!  He doesn't have to think about it.

Romney certainly doesn't get it if he thinks you can just pluck someone out of the State Dept.  I like to be able to talk shorthand with people on important issues.  We need a President who KNOWS the history so experts can talk to him or her in shorthand and not have to provide decades (centuries!) of history to get him or her enough up to speed to address emergency situations.  It's not even like the old days when the communications took days and months--everything is instantaneous today!  Imagine the learning curve Romney would need if he can make such a ridiculous statement!

...Frankly, if all we want is somebody who spent a lot of time in foreign policy, we just go to the State Department and pluck someone from that — of the thousands who were there. ...http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318750,00.html
 


 


 

40 posted on 01/22/2008 7:44:52 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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Well, let's see what the Head FReeper has to say about Giuliani:

WILL FR EMBRACE SOCIALISM TO MAKE WAY FOR A GIULIANI PRESIDENCY?

If Rudy's nominated, I'm voting 3rd party. Simple as that.

44 posted on 01/22/2008 8:05:54 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I am a Republican who is far mor fiscally conservative that socially. If one goes to the Club for Growth website and reads the presidential white papers on the candidates, no one but Ron Paul's is more pro-growth. Ron Paul, however, has an unrealistic foreign policy.

Good post...it took courage amongst the pitchfork weilders who will belittle you.

66 posted on 01/22/2008 11:58:50 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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The only case for Rooty is a “suitcase” to send him packing out of the 2008 race.

I would never vote for a pro choice GOP candidate that has no desire to see the light.

He goes against the pro life platform.


71 posted on 01/22/2008 4:02:58 PM PST by dforest (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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nearly all abortions immoral.

nearly all?

79 posted on 01/22/2008 7:42:36 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE thOnly if McCain will promise todan to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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“Please do not shoot the messenger.”

If rudy is in office, we might have to stone you instead as he would take all our guns.


84 posted on 01/23/2008 7:38:01 AM PST by CJ Wolf (To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
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Dennis Prager is just another degenerate poof who has fallen in love with a pervert.


89 posted on 01/23/2008 9:08:34 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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I agree, but don’t be surprised if many on FreeRepublic refuse to admit their mistake, after the jihad they waged against Rudy supporters.


90 posted on 01/23/2008 9:11:55 AM PST by Eva
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With Fred out, I now go to my second choice - Rudy.


98 posted on 01/23/2008 9:38:21 AM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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Rudy Giuliani, the man I intend to vote for.


104 posted on 01/23/2008 10:42:26 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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