Posted on 01/20/2008 6:57:25 AM PST by skully
Fred Thompson's distant third in last night's South Carolina primary, has me re-thinking my support. I say this with disappointment, " I don't think Fred can win the nomination". Part of me wants to support him to the bitter end. Another part feels that in doing so I may only be helping McCain or Huckabee; my least 2 favorite candidates. I live in a Super Tuesday state, and my vote may actually matter this cycle, so I want to use it wisely. The only other candidates who seems like they can stop McCain or Huckabee is Romney or Rudy. If McCain wins in Florida, then he's in good shape to be the nominee. Polling analysis, done before Nevada and South Carolina primary; has him in the lead in Florida at around 23% about a 2 point lead over Rudy whose at 21-22%. Romney is around 18%, Hucakabee 15%, Fred 7%, and Paul 5%. Florida is a winner take all state, so whoever wins will have solid delegate count. Romney has the most delegate at this point, counts vary from source to source, but I put him at 72 to McCain's 38. So a win from Romney in Florida would give him a solid lead going into Super Tuesday. A win by Rudy would knock McCain into 3rd in the delegate count. So my quandry is do I continue to support Fred, or put my support behind a candidate who has a better chance of stopping McCain. In the end I will vote for the GOP nominee regardless. This is only because the troops are deployed, and they don't deserve a Commander-In-Chief from the party that tried to lose the war for them. So the primary is where my vote counts the most, and I want to put the "best man possible" for the job on the ticket. Unfortunately it dosen't look like the "best man" for the job will be at the top of that ticket, but there's is another spot on that ticket. Hey it might be wishful thinking, but what's a Fredhead to do??
who are u gonna support EV?
Yet leaves the courts to "interpret" it.
Heck let me "interpret" the rules and I assure you I'd never break one (/cynicism).
It's a very corrupting power, judicial review is, but we gave up on impeaching judges for things other than bribery and corruption many many moons ago.
So really you are left with no check on a rouge state court except filing up to the SCOTUS.
So, you completely absolve Romney for all the pro-gay agenda stuff that went down during his term? Including appointing radical gay activists to the bench and to positions in his administration?
Do you also absolve him of responsibility for picking more non-Republicans than Republicans, of any stripe, to the bench? Why?
By the time Romney got done, there were more Green Party candidates for statewide office than Republicans. That’s where liberal Republicanism always leads. To political and governmental destruction.
Riddle me this:
How can an executive ever keep his sworn oath if he can’t interpret the Constitution?
I am not optimistic about the economy. I believe we may well be headed into a serious recession. While Hoover didn't cause the depression, the fact that he was a Republican bought us 16 years of Democrat Presidents. That was the basis of my comment re Carter/Reagan. To achieve the best long term result, we may benefit by losing a battle or two. Don't think the possibility doesn't scare the crap out of me though.
McPain thanks you Fred. You performed your job as a shill to perfection. Now it’s time for you to go back to your TV show until MCPain needs you to split the vote again.
Yeah. Like during Jefferson's day.
"The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please." [Sept 6, 1819]
"...the Federal Judiciary; an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scarecrow), working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped from the States, and the government of all be consolidated into one. When all government... in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated." (1821)
"You seem to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarcy...The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal...knowing that to whatever hands confided, with corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots." [Sept 28, 1820 letter to William Jarvis]
"The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in the constitution of the federal Judiciary."
"The Judiciary of the United States is the subtle corps of sappers and miners constantly working under ground to undermine the foundations of our confederated fabric." (1820)
"The opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislative and executive also in their spheres, would make the judiciary a despotic branch."
- Thomas Jefferson
I say, in the primary, vote for who you want. The general election is the time to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Is there a reason you are planning on voting for Rudy?
“And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just.”
Romans 3:8
I agree with you that, unfortunately, we are now at a point where stopping McCain has to be top priority for conservatives; It is not just because McCain is a RINO, which all of the non-Fred candidates are, but he is a VINDICTIVE one who will do everything possible to screw conservatives at every turn if he were elected President. From taxes to “global warming” to the selection of Judges, you can be sure that it will be the liberal media and Democrats who will have more influence over a “President McCain” than conservative Republicans. He’ll sell out conservative principles at every turn.
Further, you can GUARANTEE that the minute he is elected he will once again shove amnesty down our throats - and with likely gains for Democrats in Congress he might be successful this time. 20 Million legalized illegal aliens and tens of million more of their relatives will mean CONSERVATIVES WILL BE FINISHED DEMOGRAPHICALLY in a relatively short time. A good argument can be made that politically-speaking we would have an easier time stopping a President Hillary from pushing amnesty than a President McCain.
I supported Fred more than 100 Percent, was a speaker for him here at the Nevada Caucus, and WISH things had turned out different in this campaign. So many “could have beens” and “should have beens”. Like many of us, I am angry and frustrated over this entire nominating process and searching for answers as to how a majority conservative political party could be in this position. But we can’t keep our heads buried in the sand. Fred’s staying in the race, especially in Florida, unfortunately will continue to help siphon anti-McCain conservative votes without him having any realistic chance of winning at this point.
I do NOT like any of the remaining candidates (Most particularly, the Huckster is indeed that - a total fraud who I would also never support). But right now, the most important thing for conservatives is to recognize the incredibly difficult position we are now in and very quickly face reality and pull together. If we don’t quickly coalesce around an anti-McCain challenger we may NOT be able to stop him. For real conservatives, THAT should be our priority. If we don’t, we may end up in a position where we would be asked to choose between “winning” with McCain or “losing” with Hillary Clinton...a fate that we can only avoid if we act NOW!!!
Rudy should not get 2 on spinning/flipflopping.
And Romney would be a 1 at worst on borders—there’s no question he’s more conservative than Huckabee or McCain on the issue. As far as abortion, he should probably get a 1 since he’s running at least on a pro-life platform. McCain, who has a better record on the issue, has given indication that he would be “openminded” when appointing judges, and I suspect that means he would be worse on the issue than Romney.
Exactly. Jefferson was dead on.
Glad we could get to this common ground that legal tyrannt exists.
I’m off to watch some NFL playoff football.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Yep, easy answer for me! My priority is WOT, and of the remaining viable candidates, Rudy sounds the toughest! My opinion only, and I know some will disagree, but that is my priority. I also think he would be very good economically.
Awesome. You link to an ALF-CIO article to make a presumably negative point about Mitt’s business politics.
When Fred drops, I will cast a symbolic vote for him anyway and then I will work to advance the thesis that a Democrat needs to win in the fall.
It is clear to me that if any of the Republicans win,we will be obliged (under the Party Loyalty Maxim) to support that candidate again in 4 years, after which a Democrat will almost certainly win, perhaps twice.
Better, I say, 4 years of liberalism and fight again, than 16 years of liberalism.
This country needs an enema again, just as it did 30 years ago.
Guilty as charged. I used several left wing publications and groups in this reply. The sum total...this guy has no track record of being Conservative. But, neither do any of the left over candidates(barring Fred, who looks to be surrendering).
I was just in Poplar Bluff last Thursday. I am considering moving there, among other places.
“And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just.”
Romans 3:8
I agree with your quote, but I don’t think it applies. I don’t think it’s evil to vote for a man who would support our troops overseas over and against someone who would not, for instance. Even if the troop supporter doesn’t support every Bible based position that there is. To vote for the best man of two is not evil, in my opinion.
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