Posted on 01/19/2008 5:58:50 PM PST by ImpBill
HOW LONG DOES THE USA HAVE?
This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming. I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting and concerning to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.
How Long Do We Have?
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'
'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'
'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'
'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'
'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage'
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...' Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
This has been an interesting thread to read. Thank you for posting even if it isn’t true! ;o)
I figure two years into her first term.
Let’s hope we are both very wrong.
Yes, it was a day that should live in infamy.
On the birthday of a courageous President who fought a four year war to preserve America, a cowardly Senate refuses to discharge its duty under the Constitution that they were sworn to uphold and defend.
Thanks for the link—you’re right, when you re-read the facts, the outrage begins anew....
Ping!
Here's a blast from the past:
As I've been saying for a few years, I'm worried about VICE President Clinton.
Think of it:
• She keeps her promise not to run for president in '04
• Two years and one day into her term the first slotter gets arkincided
• Under Article XXII, she can still run for two full terms as the incumbent
• The Hillary!™ Decade begins
• Hillary uses the Patriot Act to it's fullest extent, and beyond
• At the end of the Hillary!™ Decade there is a National Emergency "temporarily" delaying the elections
• Under the pressure of the National Emergency, the 2nd and 22nd amendments are repealed
• By the time the National Emergency is over all the 'improved' source code for the touch screen electronic balloting will be in place......
Just as an aside, with the Clinton's love of all things Military - War Hero Kerry is VERY expendable, isn't he?
Yes, I remember that!
We were both on the same page pretty much, assuming Hillary was the VP in ‘04.
Damn fine analysis, I’d say! ;)
Now she could be POTUS. Yikes!!!
“There is no such person as “Alexander Tyler.”
Oh yes there is, he’s from Freedonia!
I’m holding out for an Obama/Hillary!™ ticket...
Jesus is the way the Truth and the light....nothing else amounts to a hill of beans....LOL! I cannot believe I remembered that!
Huh? What does this mean? Most "counties" I know number their populations in the thousands to tens of thousands, not hundreds of millions.
Is it "number of counties"? And if it is, why can't the professor say so?
Nope, but he made it very clear that he considered the war unjust and illegal on the USA’s part, which certainly wouldn’t help the troops’ morale. He supported his country’s troops fully once it was in the war, but was convinced that we never should have got into it.
As a result he lost the election and didn’t run for office again for a decade, when the issue had cooled down. But Douglass still tried to use it against him in the famous debates.
Even if we don't, the time is not much extended. Look how fast the UK is sinking.
LOL!!
I think that Hillary will take on Obama as her VP. It will be the grand Kumbaya moment of the Demon Convention, where unity prevails. Truth is, she will not win on her own, and she will need the squishy moderates and indies to win, and Obama will be a sop to get those votes, plus the Oprah voters.
Obama is more formidable than the Clintons figured.
No doubt we live in interesting times.
Yup.
And most of the media will pee in their panties gushing over it.
btt
Bump!
Athens fell because of the military disaster at Syracuse, and the plague that ravaged a besieged city.
Well, that means we’re screwed because all that’s left is a bunch of RINOs and Dems. The whole remaining lot is pro-amnesty.
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