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Vanderbilt poll ...; Political scientist says anti-Mormon bias finds cover
Vanderbilt News Service ^ | 01/18/08 | Ann Marie Deer Owens

Posted on 01/19/2008 12:27:37 PM PST by Reaganesque

Bias against Mitt Romney’s religion is one of the reasons that the tag “flip-flopper” sticks with the former Massachusetts governor but not his Republican opponents, according to Vanderbilt political scientist John Geer. “There is no question that Romney has changed his positions on some issues, but so have some of the other candidates,” Geer said. “Why does the label stick to Romney but not his opponents? At least some of the answer lies in Romney’s Mormon beliefs.”

Geer and colleagues Brett Benson of Vanderbilt and Jennifer Merolla of Claremont Graduate University designed an Internet survey to assess bias against Mormons, how best to combat it and its potential impact on the nomination process and general election campaign.

“We find that of those who accuse Romney of flip-flopping, many admit it is Romney’s Mormonism and not his flip-flopping that is the real issue,” Benson said. “Our survey shows that 26 percent of those who accuse Romney of flip-flopping also indicate that Mormonism, not flip-flopping, is their problem with Romney.” Benson noted that the pattern is especially strong for conservative Evangelicals. According to the poll, 57 percent of them have a bias against Mormons.

The poll, which was conducted by Polimetrix, included an oversample of Southern Evangelicals that Geer said measured bias with far more precision than previous efforts. The survey shows that 50 percent of conservative Evangelicals evaluate a moderate Christian candidate more positively than a conservative Mormon candidate.

The study’s findings suggest that criticizing Romney for flip-flopping is an effective campaign strategy because it sticks with two different groups: those who are genuinely concerned about Romney’s shifts on certain issues and those who use the label as cover for the fact that they do not want to vote for a Mormon for president.

“As the campaign continues to unfold, these data become increasingly relevant as the Republicans choose a presidential nominee,” Geer said.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; mormon; romney; vanderbilt
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To: Count of Monte Logan

>>>>Clinton-type word parser. Honestly, his parsing is not limited to abortion.

I was a Mass resident and a republican and conservative at the time.

He was not “parsing”, he was explaining why he was between a rock and a hard place.

I thought his position was unfortunate but certainly it was not ambiguous.


21 posted on 01/19/2008 1:02:49 PM PST by angkor ("We are not very many mistakes away from a second Holocaust." Newt Gingrich, Nov 15 2007)
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To: angkor

Mitt won the Evangelical vote in Michigan. Bible thumpers vote for Mormons all the time in Arizona. This whole “Evangelicals won’t vote for a Mormon” is mostly an invention of the press. The line is thrown around not because Evangelicals hate Mormons, but because the press hates Evangelicals.


22 posted on 01/19/2008 1:03:53 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION. It is PLANT FOOD, necessary for all life on Earth.)
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To: Reaganesque; Count of Monte Logan
Mitt's not the Anti-Christ. I should know as one Mittbot told me I was a Son of Perdition.

U.S. Army Retired


23 posted on 01/19/2008 1:04:39 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: angkor

What I am talking about primarily is his realizing right before his Presidential run about his beliefs on abortion(i.e., his 2004 Harvard Stem Cell research meeting). My gosh, a former Stake President aged 55 needs to reach this far in his life to figure out his position on life and abortion? Give me a break.


24 posted on 01/19/2008 1:07:17 PM PST by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Question Liberal Authority

I agree with you.. I think the press hates Evangelicals more than Evangelicals dislike or hate Mormons. However, there are some pretty hardlined Mormon haters on this forum.. perhaps 20% of the Freepers sympathize with them. THey may create the impression of a higher count.


25 posted on 01/19/2008 1:10:33 PM PST by Count of Monte Logan
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To: big'ol_freeper

Well, Mormon Freepers make mistakes or say the wrong things. I hope you can overlook that. We attack each other for sport on this forum too much.


26 posted on 01/19/2008 1:12:19 PM PST by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Count of Monte Logan
You are precisely right on that issue and his shallowness and lack of core convictions stretches to a number of social issues. And in that regard he is VERY un-LDS. They tend to have firm core convictions on social issues that are right in line with other conservatives. If he were any other religious faith he would have very little support among LDS.

U.S. Army Retired


27 posted on 01/19/2008 1:12:37 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Count of Monte Logan
Oh definitely. I often joke with that particular Freeper about it as we continue to argue over the Romney candidacy.

U.S. Army Retired


28 posted on 01/19/2008 1:14:12 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Reaganesque
Ronald Reagan on religious bigotry.
29 posted on 01/19/2008 1:15:25 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (MITTens United 4 Mitt - Stop McCain, Huck & Rudy)
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To: Reaganesque

Now THAT is good.


30 posted on 01/19/2008 1:16:30 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (MITTens United 4 Mitt - Stop McCain, Huck & Rudy)
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To: Count of Monte Logan
THey may create the impression of a higher count.

If elections were decided by the enthusiasm of Freepers, then Duncan Hunter would be Emperor Of The Universe by now. And there'd be a really big fence around it.
31 posted on 01/19/2008 1:17:22 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION. It is PLANT FOOD, necessary for all life on Earth.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Orrin Hatch is a Mormon. Harry Reid is a Mormon. You never hear anyone complain about it.

Well of course not. They represent states where a lot of voters are Mormon. Very unlikely either one could have been elected from South Carolina. Or lots of other states.

32 posted on 01/19/2008 1:19:03 PM PST by freespirited (Still a proud member of the Stupid Party. It beats the Evil Party any day of the week.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Yes. Duncan Hunter doesn’t have Mitt’s money.. otherwise he would be a contender.

Fred Thompson has just blown it. He had all the potential momentum before he entered the race. He has just gone lazy since announcing. Too bad, I think he had Reagan potentiall too. He just lacked motivation and a the race was crowed too with various candidates ahead of him. Reagan was really in a strong position.. hard to member back to 1980?


33 posted on 01/19/2008 1:21:25 PM PST by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Reaganesque

lol!


34 posted on 01/19/2008 1:28:20 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Count of Monte Logan

I’m sorry you feel that way.


35 posted on 01/19/2008 1:33:18 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: freespirited
Well of course not. They represent states where a lot of voters are Mormon. Very unlikely either one could have been elected from South Carolina. Or lots of other states.

What I'm saying is - people from South Carolina don't complain about Hatch or Reid being Mormons. Nor do you see them shooting out their television sets whenever Donny Osmond is on.

Nevada is 6% Mormon. Arizona is 6% Mormon. Both states have had plenty of Mormons winning statewide elections. It's not because Mormons are such a huge percentage of the population. It's because many of the very successful people in these states are Mormon, and non-Mormons don't have trouble voting for them.

It's not like you ever see Mormons busting down shop windows, spray painting graffiti on public buildings or carjacking SUV's to support their heroin habit. Weird religion or not, the faith produces folks who are competent, productive executives.
36 posted on 01/19/2008 1:38:01 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION. It is PLANT FOOD, necessary for all life on Earth.)
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To: freespirited

“Well of course not. They represent states where a lot of voters are Mormon. Very unlikely either one could have been elected from South Carolina. Or lots of other states.”

That says a lot about S. Carolina — none of it good.


37 posted on 01/19/2008 1:39:44 PM PST by Bushwacker777
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To: angkor
"it must be pretty thin-pickings on the flip-flopping front."

I agree! I add one more word: it must be pretty thin-picking nit-pickings on the flip-flopping front.

38 posted on 01/19/2008 1:40:03 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Count of Monte Logan
Duncan Hunter doesn’t have Mitt’s money.. otherwise he would be a contender.

Mitt earned a pretty big chunk of that money. Maybe the family was already rich, but Mitt didn't exactly run the family's fortune into the ground.

I'm not beating up on Hunter. I'm just pointing out that there's a difference between what people say when they're spouting off on message boards and what actually happens when there's a real live election.

If you listened to chat room buzz, you'd think that the Libertarians had 400 seats in Congress.
39 posted on 01/19/2008 1:45:27 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION. It is PLANT FOOD, necessary for all life on Earth.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

You stop that!:)


40 posted on 01/19/2008 1:47:27 PM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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