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OFFICIAL SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY THREAD

Posted on 01/19/2008 6:06:01 AM PST by vikingd00d

Today is the day.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; fred; frednumberone; fredthompson; gofredgo; gop; nothuckabubba; notmccain; notmitt; primary; sc2008; southcarolina; thompson
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To: not2worry
Would like to hear from any other Fred supporters on what they think of this combo.

I would have the same feeling that I would about McCain/AnyoneElse. No thanks. One less thing to do on election day.

141 posted on 01/19/2008 7:46:20 AM PST by the808bass
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To: Ulysse
But would a ticket THOMSON/HUCKABEE be possible?

It might be possible, but it wouldn't be good politics. If Fred's the nominee, I think the southern social conservatives would come around and back him. Fred would need someone (esp. a non-southerner) to bring in other voters.

142 posted on 01/19/2008 7:46:44 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Non-southern FRederalist)
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US Republican presidential candidate and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (L) talks to voters at a polling place where voters gathered for primary elections in Columbia, South Carolina January 19, 2008. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN 2008 (USA)
143 posted on 01/19/2008 7:46:49 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: Charles Henrickson

I agree. They both need to go after McCain. I saw McCain get off the plane and it appeared like he had a difficult time walking. His mental condition worries me more. WTH is it with him wanting MS13 and terrorist be admitted into the country? No normal person would want that.


144 posted on 01/19/2008 7:47:01 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: The_Reader_David
Between the two McCain is far the greater danger. No candidate could be worse for the Conservative Movement then McCain. We fear the others will betray us, we know McCain will betray us.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. He has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration headed by a Bill Clinton style unprincipled political opportunists who would spend his time actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy?

McCain would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives. At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them.

The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.

145 posted on 01/19/2008 7:48:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: Vision

I am an atheist, but this morning I said a prayer for Fred before I turned on the PC. This one counts

GO FRED!


146 posted on 01/19/2008 7:49:19 AM PST by underbyte
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To: mcjordansc

It’s worth being able to live with myself and my decisions. Plus, voting for someone like McCain or Huckabee would do nothing, absolutely nothing, to advance conservatism. The Republican party will be no more if either of those two gets the nod.


147 posted on 01/19/2008 7:49:43 AM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: mcjordansc
I find it very ironic that the "big tent" Republican party is full of such small minded people.

We don't have a "big tent." That's what liberal Republicans say they want. We have a socon/ficon/strong military base. McCain and Huck have only figured out one of the three legs of the stool apiece. If you think McCain's going to nominate justices who will interpret the Constitution constructively you're deluding yourself. If you think Huck's getting an HLA and DOMA passed, you're deluding yourself. No thanks, I'll stay home for McCain as the only reason I'd vote is for Supreme Court justices. I'd vote for Huckabee but then I'd have to vomit and take a benzodiazipine to stop the seizing.

148 posted on 01/19/2008 7:50:46 AM PST by the808bass
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Jeri Thompson holds her daughter Hayden, 4, as they join Republican presidential hopeful former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn. during a campaign stop at Tommy's Country Ham House to visit the supporters and eat breakfast Saturday, Jan. 19, 2008, in Greenville, S.C.(AP Photo/Mary Ann Chastain)
149 posted on 01/19/2008 7:50:48 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: vikingd00d

I’m hoping that somehow Fred Thompson can beat McCain and Huckabee in South Carolina the. That way, a number of delegates will be spread out between McCain, Huckabee, and Thompson and Romney will have 3 times the delegates (after his win in Nevada today) as his closest opponent. A Thompson win in South Carolina today would be the best thing that could happen to Romney there (well, besides Romney somehow winning S.C., of course.)


150 posted on 01/19/2008 7:51:42 AM PST by Spiff
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To: barryg

I hope you’re kidding. That would be a foolish reason to vote someone into the office of president. Let your governor and legislature deal with it. God, I hope you’re kidding.


151 posted on 01/19/2008 7:51:55 AM PST by Round 9
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To: Timeout
agree. As a FredHead, I really pulled for him to move up in the polls. But it just doesn’t seem to be working. (Yes, I know, one big reason is skeptical voters like me).

If I were voting in SC, I think I would have to conclude Fred will be gone next week...drink some Maalox...and vote for Huck. We can deal with Huck later.

Are you out of your friggin' mind? Let me get this straight.
A. You're a Fredhead.
B. You're skeptical of Fred's chances because of media polling.
C. Therefor, as a Fredhead you conclude the best course of action would be to vote against Fred.

Just brilliant.

152 posted on 01/19/2008 7:52:14 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Hoodat

Kucinich, even though he is just a congressmen.


153 posted on 01/19/2008 7:52:23 AM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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Republican presidential hopeful former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn. makes a campaign stop at Tommy's Country Ham House to visit the supporters and eat breakfast with his family Saturday, Jan. 19, 2008, in Greenville, S.C. (AP Photo/Mary Ann Chastain)
154 posted on 01/19/2008 7:53:23 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: SE Mom

What do you attribute that to? Why do they know about Huck but not Thompson? Curious as to their main source of info.


155 posted on 01/19/2008 7:53:26 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: txrangerette
"Did you hear Rush yesterday?"

No, I only heard the first ten of 15 minutes, then was called away...and I don't have Rush 24/7, which is something I plan to rectify once we finallt the promised DSL through here!

156 posted on 01/19/2008 7:53:50 AM PST by cake_crumb (Being a preacher DOES NOT exempt you from being a liar and a crook)
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To: the808bass
If you think Huck's getting an HLA and DOMA passed, you're deluding yourself.

This is where the Dobsonites are so naive in backing Huck. Fred would actually get more ACCOMPLISHED, realistically, for the pro-life cause. If, within four years--even eight--we could get a SCOTUS majority and overturn Roe v. Wade and send it back to the states, that would be PLENTY!

157 posted on 01/19/2008 7:54:40 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (FRederalist)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
"Those that vote the polls are victims of what I like to call the media/RINO’s 'gullible strategy'."

YEP. Otherwise known as "groupthink".

158 posted on 01/19/2008 7:55:50 AM PST by cake_crumb (Being a preacher DOES NOT exempt you from being a liar and a crook)
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To: txrangerette
Th McCain thing has to do with getting kid glove treatment from both the so called News media and the other candidates. The criticisms launched at McCain by the other candidates is so limp wrist-ed it is ineffective. Thus in a field so evenly balanced as this, McCain’s Cult of Personality campaign allows hims to avoid having to answer any though questions on any issue.

Somebody better go after McCain soon or he is going to walk to the nomination. He is leading in both the national polls and many state polls. He is the leader on most future markets. He is getting kid glove treatment now that he will never get from the Democrat nominee in a General Election.

159 posted on 01/19/2008 7:55:53 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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US Republican presidential candidate and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee smiles during a visit to a polling place where voters have gathered for primary elections in Columbia, South Carolina January 19, 2008. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN
160 posted on 01/19/2008 7:56:27 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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