I think of Juan in "other terms."
Posted on 01/19/2008 4:38:35 AM PST by america4vr
The award-winning documentary film, "Missing, Presumed Dead: The Search For America's POWs" narrated by Ed Asner backs up allegations that John McCain repeatedly thwarted attempts by U.S. Senate investigators to examine the abandonment of American POWs in Southeast Asia and North Korea.
"Missing Presumed Dead," which won two film festival "Best Documentary" awards, explores McCain's successful attempt to pass a stealth bill in the Senate which effectively keeps his POW records sealed in perpituity and provides insight into why he does not want these records ever to be made public - including the revelation of the many propaganda radio broadcasts he delivered for the North Vietnamese. The film also explains why McCain's refusal of early release from a North Vietnamese POW camp had a less than honorable motive.
The charges against McCain are revealed in the documentary by such political luminaries as former New Hampshire Senator Bob Smith; Jesse Helms' chief of staff, Dr. James Lusier; former Congressman Bob Dornan; U.S. Senate lead investigator, Tracy Usery; and author, Dr. Joseph Douglass, Jr. ("Betrayed").
This documentary goes in depth to answer some of these persistant questions:
Why were these POWs abandoned?
Are some of these POWs still alive in North Korea and Vietnam?
Is John McCain really the president we want guiding our future generations?
According to Jerry Kiley, a group leader of Vietnam Vets against McCain, Kiley says, "John McCain has created this myth that he is a hero, and he is not."
Kiley's group cites as evidence a May, 1973, U.S. News & World Report article by McCain in which McCain said he realized, on his third or fourth day of captivity after his plane was shot down in 1967, that his knee was so swollen the blood might pool in it and kill him,
(Excerpt) Read more at eworldwire.com ...
That guy is NO FRIEND of the POWs that are still in Vietnam.
If he wins South Carolina, watch out, some patriot conservatives are coming out of the bushes and it is going to get really interesting.
Bob Dornan for one is going to tear John a new one over the travesty of the Senate cover up regarding our men left behind in Southeast Asia.
I have been waiting for this. There will be no wiggling out of it. FR will be front and center, get out the popcorn.
He should stick to his other job. He does animated character voices now that his appearance has become (more) terrifying.
I think of Juan in "other terms."
> Narrated by Ed Asnar is all you need to know. Im no fan of McCain politically but this sounds like typical leftist propaganda.
I’m no fan of Asnar either, he’s just too leftist for my taste, but I know several former POWs and they all hate McCain for the McCain-Kerry skullduggery that is described by Asnar in this film.
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Please the excellent research that Calpernia has added.
May have been more a case of K'toon providing the political cover for the other two to sacrifice our POW's and get them out of the way permanently. All 3 had personal reasons for wanting to see the demise of the POW's. I LOATHE them all!
Haven’t seen the film and it may in fact be accurate, but Ed Asnar is a Communist, not a socialist or progressive but a Communist much like Lynn Redgrave. For that reason i am very skeptical of anything he decides to narrate on its face. It may be he thought he was narrating a documentary that had a typical 60’s radical theme of Vietnam good America bad. Maybe he thought it would be a “see they lied about how POW’s were treated” in typical Hanoi Jane fashion. I don’t know but I would question anything he is involved with. Of course maybe he is just hurting for the work? All that being said, its a legitimate question to ask McCain.
I wonder if McCain will try to shut them down like j Effin did in 2004 with the Stolon Honor documentary.
Here is an interesting post from Calpernia...
(1990) John McCain said on the floor of the Senate: “Mr. President, I am anxious to construct a new relationship with our old adversary (Vietnam)”. He, who was in a Vietnamese prison camps for five and a half years, was pushing hard for normalized relations with Hanoi long before anyone else was.
Between when Clinton said that he would not normalize relations with Vietnam until there was a full accounting of POWs/MIAs and the time he lifted the Trade Embargo only two Americans had been accounted for in Vietnam.
Lifting the embargo opened the door for the multi-billion dollar corporation, Lippo Group with American business partners, such as Stephens Investment of Little Rock, AR to conduct business in Vietnam. Mr A. Vernon Weaver, at that time the Vice-President for Operations in the Pacific Rim of Stephens Investment and a member of the Board of Visitors at the U.S. Naval Academy was instrumental in arranging an upgrade of the position of Commandant of the U.S. Naval Academy from two stars to four stars.
Former U.S. Navy officers, Senators John Kerry and John McCain supported this reorganization.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/billbell.htm
An indication of just how deep and subtle Red Chinese roots run in U.S. business and government affairs deals with McCain and Kerry. Both McCain and Kerry fought long and hard to provide the political cover Clinton needed when he made the controversial decision to normalize relations with Vietnam. McCain’s wife, Cindy, is the daughter of James Hensley, who is the second largest Anheuser-Busch distributor in the United States. McCain is an officer in Hensley & Co. and Cindy is a vice president. The McCain family owns several million dollars in Anheuser-Busch stock.
As a part of an aggressive campaign to enhance its international standing in the beer market, Anheuser-Busch has had signned contracts and invested hundreds of millions building brewery operations in China and Vietnam. I can’t link any of those contracts involve Lippo. Some docs retrieved from the net revealed that Riady’s Lippo is the holder of a license for Sea World in Indonesia and that Anheuser-Busch owns all the Sea World themeparks in the United States as well as some overseas.
Is there a connection between Anheuser-Busch and Lippo?
http://www.usvetdsp.com/billbell.htm
SeaWorld/Lippo Connection:
Old URL: http://www.lippo.co.id/Main.htm
Internet Cache: http://web.archive.org/web/19980530014836/http://www.lippo.co.id/Main.htm
Net cache shows Lippo holds/held the license on Sea World in Indonesia.
“Today I am lifting the trade embargo against Vietnam because I am absolutely convinced it offers us the best way to resolve the fate of those who remain missing and about whom we are not sure.” Two things happened between November 1992 and February 1994 which bear on this issue. One was that Senators John Kerry and John McCain lobbied the president to drop the embargo. The second thing was that in September 1993 the head of the Lippo Group, Mochtar Riady, led a trade mission of Asian bankers on a trip to Vietnam to (in his words) “size up business opportunities there.” Lippo helps, among other things, to finance trade deals. It therefore stood to benefit enormously from expanded trade between Vietnam and the United States;
Old URL: http://www.empower.org/html/policy/misc/roadmap3.htm
See Internet Cache:
http://web.archive.org/web/20000816001233/http://www.empower.org/html/policy/misc/roadmap3.htm
I think McCain is a traitor...
Selling our country to any ILLEGAL who feels like invading...
OUR COUNTRY IS BEING INVADED AND MCCAIN IS AIDING THE ENEMY!
I spent 52-53 in the mountains of Korea with some of the ugliest specimens of humanity the Lord ever placed on this earth (they would say the same about me) and I can guarantee you, NONE of us are Heroes by any stretch of the imagination. We just did the job we were trained to do.(mostly on-the-job training, I might add)
With all due respect to all the POWs, how do you define a POW as a hero unless he has done something heroic?
I do as well.
Ed Asner represents the generation and the type who protested the Vietnam War and spit on the veterans when they came home. NOW he is a champion of POWs and of our troops? I don’t think so. Yes, he is only narrating but implying a point of view. And he has also gotten photo ops at a well-known troop support organization. But in truth he represents people who despise our military and our nation. He was active in backing the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua, for example. He should be on the top 10 of everyone’s list of traitors.
At the same time, there is much that is questionable re McCain’s political activities on the committee he co-chaired with Kerry, and he is WIDELY unpopular with veterans, particularly Navy veterans. However, if this “documentary” goes too far in its allegations and implications, it could just add to his image of martyrdom. It is another “Swift boat” attempt, too ironic for words.
I see in the press release, he is alleged to have made radio broadcasts of “propaganda for the North Vietnamese.” Can they back this up? Can it be explained by the wish to remain alive? I don’t know. But, at present, I do not consider McCain on a par with Fonda. For all his political scurrilousness, I do not consider him a traitor.
Asner, a traitor. McCain, not a traitor. Not interested in the film.
Finally, some sunshine on the Manchurian Candidate.
I do not believe that millions of conservatives will stay home if McCain is the nominee.
More like a hundred thousand maybe scattered across 50 states. Net effect.....?...zero.
I am sure there are many who died because they refused to be a pawn for the enemy, a fate worse than death for some.
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