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Court gives U.S. access to Eagle Pass’ land in border fence dispute
The Brownsville Herald ^ | January 16, 2008 | Staff and wire reports

Posted on 01/17/2008 8:23:36 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

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1 posted on 01/17/2008 8:23:41 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

This counts as a victory for Johnny Sutton, until someone arrives to explain otherwise. [chuckle]


2 posted on 01/17/2008 8:25:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Brucifer; Media Cat; muggs; pinkpanther111; Jaded; Tigen; flattorney; bigjoesaddle; FryingPan101; ..

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


3 posted on 01/17/2008 8:26:00 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch

No problem..issue everyone a passport and put the fence on the NORTH side of their city!


4 posted on 01/17/2008 8:27:09 AM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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Great idea!


5 posted on 01/17/2008 8:27:53 AM PST by Grunthor (If I don't get to Carley Simon's house I'll never know if that song was about me.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"Several landowners have given the government access to their land, including some who oppose the fence. Many others in Texas, Arizona and California have refused, prompting the lawsuits."

It would seem that catering to law breakers is a lucrative business to put up such a fight. I say build a fence around these people's property and that will funnel all of the border crossing traffic over their land which shouldn't take long to completely destroy.

6 posted on 01/17/2008 8:30:37 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: 1rudeboy

Sutton only pawn in game of life.


7 posted on 01/17/2008 8:31:47 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch

We all are, I suppose . . . but this doesn’t bode well for the argument that he is an agent of the Mexican government.


8 posted on 01/17/2008 8:34:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SwinneySwitch

Ah yes, the ever heavy hand of Big Gubmint on a poor little community.


9 posted on 01/17/2008 8:34:32 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: rednesss

Law-breakers? Since when are American conservatives in favor of government mandates overriding property rights? Or, riding rough-shod over the individual landowner... people have settled because they can’t afford the fight.


10 posted on 01/17/2008 8:45:34 AM PST by rpgdfmx
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"Since when are American conservatives in favor of government mandates overriding property rights?"

Since the founding of our country. Eminent domain is in the Constitution, look it up. Now I didn't support the Kelo decision, thought it was abusive, but if it weren't for eminent domain, I wouldn't be able to drive down the Interstate because someone, somewhere would refuse to sell their property that was smack dab in the middle of the road. A border fence is absolutely necessary much as the nation's Interstate highway system is. The people that are opposing it, are doing so for economic reasons because they receive a lot of money from the other side of the border.

11 posted on 01/17/2008 8:50:41 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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I know a gentleman who fought a gas main across the frontage of his property. He made them go across the street because “all things were equal”, i.e., the location on his side of the road was mere convenience to the gas company, not necessity. Yes, the man was an attorney and it didn’t cost him anything.


12 posted on 01/17/2008 8:50:46 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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Since when are American conservatives in favor of government mandates overriding property rights?

1. When it come down to national security vs. private property rights,

2. When our nations sovereignty is at stake.

13 posted on 01/17/2008 8:53:28 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Are you suggesting that a property-owner whose land abuts the border can make the government “go around?”


14 posted on 01/17/2008 8:54:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SwinneySwitch

Wow, court ruled public lands can be used as access by the federal government temporarily. Well, duh. It’s public land for goodness sakes. I agree, if someone raises a stink then build the fence on the north side of their property however, don’t bother issuing a passport as they’ve already declared which side they’re on.


15 posted on 01/17/2008 8:55:06 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: rpgdfmx
Since when are American conservatives in favor of government mandates overriding property rights?

The Constitution requires the Federal Government to protect our Country and each state from invasion. The duly elected representatives of the citizens have passed a law requiring a fence to fulfill this Constitutional mandate. This overrides individual property rights, although the property owners are to entitled to compensation.

16 posted on 01/17/2008 8:56:57 AM PST by Prokopton
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No, it would be called a “convenience fence”. In fact, the entire fence is a conveniece fence.


17 posted on 01/17/2008 8:57:29 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: rednesss
Don't forget that, in order to pound this square peg into the round hole (i.e., compare this situation to the one in Kelo), the government would have to be taking the land from these property-owners and handing it over to a private developer.
18 posted on 01/17/2008 8:58:19 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Obviously. I mentioned Kelo to contrast eminent domain takings for private uses versus for public uses which is what eminent domain is supposed to do, i.e. the Interstate highway system. I think the Kelo decision stank to high heaven and I was in favor of the movement to take Justice Souter's house in New Hampshire to build the "Lost Liberty Hotel".

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182407,00.html

19 posted on 01/17/2008 9:15:42 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Hazcat
No problem..issue everyone a Mexican passport and put the fence on the NORTH side of their city!

Works much better.

20 posted on 01/17/2008 10:00:49 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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