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Religious Right Vilifies Romney
The Australian ^ | 1/18/2008 | Geoff Elliott

Posted on 01/17/2008 6:38:28 AM PST by tortdog

"They said all sorts of ludicrous things [about Romney]... that when he became president he would pass a bill for same-sex marriage."

The push-polling has hit other candidates too, but it highlights Mr Romney's particular difficulties in selling his candidacy to the religious right since he is a Mormon. While much attention has focused on the possibility of "firsts" in the Democratic race with a woman in Hillary Clinton or African American in Barack Obama as real shots at the White House, Mr Romney would be the first Mormon president.

It's something that's firing up the evangelical community, which is highly suspicious of Mormonism, claiming it is a perversion of the Bible and describing it as a cult.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigotry; gungrabber; liberal; obfuscation; pandering; poorme; proabortion; pronambla; religiousright; rino; romney; waambulance
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To: tortdog

Yeah I really believe what the national media says about ME: NOT,

Romney’s real problem is his liberalism not his faith!~


81 posted on 01/17/2008 9:19:33 AM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: Vanders9

“Consider whether you are MAKING it your holy book”

You did not read what I wrote go read it again.


82 posted on 01/17/2008 9:20:21 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!! || Fred - "the Best Dick Cheney ever")
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To: no dems

“See my tagline.”

Fred is my first choice also but there is a difference between loving a horse and betting on one. And if you look through the selection process he is a very, very long shot.


83 posted on 01/17/2008 9:22:51 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!! || Fred - "the Best Dick Cheney ever")
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To: almcbean

All the time.


84 posted on 01/17/2008 9:24:34 AM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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To: tortdog
You realize that it was a Utah prosecutor and Utah police who went after Warren Jeffs, right?

You realize, doncha, that it was the person Brigham sent to be with John D. Lee in at Lee's Ferry back about 140 years ago that led to the Short Creek area being developed with polygamous fundamentalist Mormons who still adhered to D&C 132...and that it was the feds not the Mormons who first tried to do something about the Colorado City-Hildale fundamentalists over 50 years ago--not the Utah Mormons...and you realize, doncha, that despite the welfare fraud that's ongoing there coupled with forced weddings of minors, the rape of minors, incest, that Utah officials pretty much look the other way other than providing a school for the "lost boys" of these cities.

85 posted on 01/17/2008 9:29:19 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Is that a yes?


86 posted on 01/17/2008 9:32:51 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog
One odd thing about this is the way the headline is completely unrelated to the article. The headline talks about the "Religious Right" vilifying Romney, and the teaser-subhead talks about the "Deep South" and "Dixie Land" playing rough --- and then the article reports on push-polling by "Common Sense Issues" based in Colorado.

Is "Common Sense" a Regligious Right organization? No clue. Are Colorado attitudes indicative of the "Deep South"?

This looks to me like Aussie cluelessness. They had to have a villain; "Religious Right" and "Dixie" are favorites in that category; so, voila!

And geez, even North Carolina isn't "Deep" South. It's "Mid"-South. You want "Deep" South, you're talking about one layer down.

87 posted on 01/17/2008 9:35:56 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sorry: Tag-line presently at the dry cleaners. Please find suitable bumper-sticker instead.)
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To: Colofornian
Definition of a cult leader: Someone who is not divine yet whom claims to have a monopoly on all truth while all others are wrong in the eyes of God.

So the Pope is a cult leader and the Catholic Church is a cult then?

88 posted on 01/17/2008 9:42:00 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Please name one book which was previously part of the Bible that was exluded by Catholics. Thank you.


89 posted on 01/17/2008 9:43:31 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sorry: Tag-line presently at the dry cleaners. Please find suitable bumper-sticker instead.)
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To: tortdog
I am assuming that these people believe they are doing good work in keeping a member of an evil and perverse cult out of the Presidency, even if it means telling a few lies

Common Sense, out of Colorodo, are the perpetrators of the push poll in question. Your (and the article's) assumptions that this outfit is composed of Christians, and what their motives supposedly are, other than to win a campaign by gutter tactics are dubious at best. I repeat, Romney has hired a prototype of the kind of sleazebag you are complaining about as one of his top advisors, which doesn't leave him, or you, much room to complain when similar kinds of slimeball things are done to him.

Cordially,

90 posted on 01/17/2008 9:46:14 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond

As stated, it was the article that made the link. It is untrue?


91 posted on 01/17/2008 9:48:11 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog
I don’t recall him favoring abortion as opposed to believing it was wrong.

Your "memory" is faulty in the extreme.

Mitt Romney doing far more than just "favoring abortion." He strenuously defended the practice just a few short years ago...the last time he ran for office, in fact.

92 posted on 01/17/2008 9:49:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If Romney's a "conservative," the Left has succeeded at making words mean nothing at all)
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To: tortdog

This hitpiece on Christians is far more despicable than any push poll. A near-total perversion of reality.


93 posted on 01/17/2008 10:02:49 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If Romney's a "conservative," the Left has succeeded at making words mean nothing at all)
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To: EternalVigilance

I guess I need your help. He says he would:

* preserve/protect woman’s right to choose
* preserve age of consent law
* not change the laws on abortion to make it more difficult for women to have an abortion.

A lot of talk about the RIGHT of a woman to choose. Nothing about Romney FAVORING abortion. In fact, he says that he will not CHANGE the law (including making abortion easier to obtain).

Help me out here. Where do I err?


94 posted on 01/17/2008 10:03:10 AM PST by tortdog
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To: EternalVigilance

In the video you bring forth, Romney states that he did not accept either being called pro-choice OR pro-life.

Did you want me to skip over that part?


95 posted on 01/17/2008 10:04:30 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog; Sunnyflorida
Papyrus fragment P52 (from the Gospel of John) has been dated to 125 A.D. Since scholars have evidence that John was the last Gospel to be written, and all the others were written decades previously, all four of the Gospels were in written within the lifetimes of people who personally knew Jesus Christ.

For instance, if 7Q5 and the other Cave 7 fragments from Qumran are from the Gospel of Mark, then this Gospel was in writing sometime between 50 - 68 A.D.

Moreover, nearly the entire New Testament (that is, inluding all of the Epistles) exists in manuscripts dated to before 300 AD. The writings of the Ante-Nicene Fathers provide strong paleographic evidence that they had access to the parts of the New Testament they were writing about, even if we no longer have the original codices.

You ought to know this. They had all the original manuscript papyri centuries before they were officially collected (not "created") into one canonical volume.

96 posted on 01/17/2008 10:05:06 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sorry: Tag-line presently at the dry cleaners. Please find suitable bumper-sticker instead.)
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To: tortdog

You err in not recognizing the obvious.

Mitt Romney, by his own words, spent most of his adult life, and all of his public life, as a hardcore proponent of abortion on demand.

And now he’s lying to you because he wants your vote.

What is so hard to understand about that?


97 posted on 01/17/2008 10:05:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If Romney's a "conservative," the Left has succeeded at making words mean nothing at all)
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To: tortdog
In the video you bring forth, Romney states that he did not accept either being called pro-choice OR pro-life.

Did you want me to skip over that part?

No. I want you to pay particular attention to that part. It's one of the clearest and indisputable indications that Mitt Romney is a complete fraud.

98 posted on 01/17/2008 10:07:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If Romney's a "conservative," the Left has succeeded at making words mean nothing at all)
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To: Rome2000

“Every Mormon I ever met was crazier than a bed bug.”

You’re kidding, right? Virtually every Mormon I’ve met has been kind and honest. I don’t agree with their doctrine, but I like the people.


99 posted on 01/17/2008 10:08:53 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: tortdog
There's just a whole lot of assumin' and broad brushn' goin' on.

All I know is that Common Sense of Colorado did the push pull, and that they may have ties to the Huckabee campaign. To extrapolate this to Christians v. Mormons is unwarranted from the evidence so far.

Cordially,

100 posted on 01/17/2008 10:09:00 AM PST by Diamond
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