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To: Rick.Donaldson
“Communism isn’t dead, by any stretch of the imagination - and it is only growing stronger, in a more silent fashion.”

Thanks for the comments. I agree.

I’m beginning to think that leftism in all it’s forms and adherents is possibly more of a threat and danger to America and the West than Islamofascism/Nazism.

17 posted on 01/16/2008 12:18:02 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: garyhope
I’m beginning to think that leftism in all it’s forms and adherents is possibly more of a threat and danger to America and the West than Islamofascism/Nazism.

I am not sure that's completely accurate. Here's why I think this.

Islamofascism is based on a religion. Therefore it's "protected" to some extent under our own laws. Nazism is an extreme political point of view, mainly fascist in its own right, but was pulled from many different idealisms - but whatever "Nazism" was, it was certainly conspiratorial, and definitely terrorist. Nazism was Socialist in its beginning and totalitarian in its "finality".

Leftism is a combination of many things, including, but especially Socialism. Thing is, we can certainly, at least in America fight against Socialism in the ballot box (still). Those who say America has gone Socialist are wrong in that respect. Leftism is about - according to a leftist -- giving power to the people, which in and of itself isn't bad. But, by this what they mean is "democracy" with the majority ruling the minority, and they want us Conservatives to be seen as the "Nazis" and "fascists" because it makes them appear "better than the rest of us.

The truth is that Nazism, and "Leftism" is more fascist than Conservatism - and there's plenty of evidence, from the ACLU, to Unions and their behaviors, to Greenpeace and their backers. There's a massive movement in this country to indoctrinate children in schools against "guns" for instance - a battle I've personally fought and at times won, against schools locally and groups like "Hand Guns, Inc" and other Brady-like groups out to destroy gun rights.

Socialism can be argued is an economic system (it is) rather than a political system - but it turns violently usually - into Communism eventually. Or simply Fascism. Either way, it becomes a totalitarian political system, complete with "State enemies". So -- on one point you're correct, Leftism has many 'forms and adherents', but not all of them are as dangerous as people who want to completely destroy any semblance of Western Civilization, and place us all under Sharia law (however it is spelled... I'm sorry, I'm not all here today and my brain isn't working as well as it should today).

Any group that proposes that Socialism, or socialist tendencies in government are good - are quite simply wrong.

When I was in HS I had to write a paper on Socialism and "prove it was a good system". I fought tooth and nail on that, and the subject was forced on me individually. So, I wrote the paper and quoted Marx, and many other proponents of Socialism and proved it was a "good system", then on the last few pages of the forty page paper, I ripped it to shreds with all its failures, and conversions to Communism, Nazism and so forth. I got an A+ on the paper - and a scathing attack from the teacher on my stance. I told the teacher I would debate him publicly on the subject any time. That debate never came to pass and my grade stood.

I'm far from an "expert" on the subject, but I'm sufficiently well read on many subjects including various political systems - and "Leftism" (which was a good term for it) is more to me of a sickness that this country suffers than a political system.
24 posted on 01/16/2008 12:49:31 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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