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Schwarzenegger to endorse term-limit changes
Los Angeles Times ^ | 01/15/08 | By Jordan Rau

Posted on 01/16/2008 11:21:34 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway

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To: kellynla
Ad campaign starting this weekend I think...

This might be a useful link:

Andrew Ping
A Political Blog
01.12.08
California Voter’s Guide for the February 5, 2008 election

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Proposition 93 is filthy voter manipulation. It’s even misnamed. This Prop is the height of politicians trying to play on voter ignorance, and must be stopped. In the “yes” arguments, they quietly admit, “Some current Members [of the Assembly or Senate] could serve more than the 14 total years now allowed.” That’s right, 42 of them actually with a special loophole written in just for them!

Corrupt politicians in Sacramento want to retain their power. They’re about to be booted out of office because of term limits, which is exactly why we passed term limits to start with. It’s what voters want. By shortening the overall period of service from 14 years to 12 years, they pretend this is a tougher term limit law. It isn’t. Right now, you can spend 6 years in our State Assembly and 8 years in the Senate. This law would let you spend 12 years in either legislative body. What this does is give Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez and Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata extended time in office, as they are about to have to leave office due to current term limits. These are people who want to raise your taxes to fix their own reckless spending. They do not care about your best interests, but only their own political power.

This country was never supposed to have professional politicians. Prop 93 only hands more power to the worst legislators California has in office. Vote no on Prop 93. Visit http://stopprop93.com/ for more details.

Vote no on Props 91, 92 and especially 93 in February. Send corrupt politicians packing.

There are also Propositions 94, 95, 96 and 97 on my ballot, and these are referenda on Indian Gaming Compacts. I do not have the information as to what the proposed amendments to the compacts are, so am rendering no opinion at this time.

21 posted on 01/16/2008 12:30:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: NormsRevenge; kellynla

listen to audio at link at #18,,,,,after the interview with Pozner...they get into the Bavarian music and reading Arnoold’s editorial with an Austrian accent...it’s a hoot.....


22 posted on 01/16/2008 12:34:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: squidly; PeterFinn; ab01; DoughtyOne; Republicus2001; Enterprise; FightforFreedomCA; ...

See the updates; audio links to the KFI Ken and John interviews with Pozner ...and enjoy the Music with the Reading of Arnoold’s Editorial...done with an Austrian accent...


23 posted on 01/16/2008 12:47:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

What ever Schwarzenegger endorses, I’m voting down. RINO!


24 posted on 01/16/2008 12:52:12 PM PST by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“it’s a hoot”

Thanks, Ernest but I am fresh out of laughs for this Phony...
We all busted our butts off in 2003 to recall Gray Davis and this “johnny-come-lately” jumps on the bandwagon at the last moment, claims to be a “conservative” and “open up the hood” before he says what he will do to fix the problems in Sacramento and proceeds to totally screw up the entire situation more so than it was when he arrived!!!

I am beyond laughing...three more years of this idiot and the GOP won’t be able to get a dogcatcher elected much less another governor anytime in the near future....

All I can say is that’s a damn shame...


25 posted on 01/16/2008 12:53:10 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: FightforFreedomCA
To confuse you even more the Liberal Marin IJ is even encouraging a NO

MarinIJ editorial

26 posted on 01/16/2008 1:03:50 PM PST by byteback
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To: NormsRevenge

What with toll roads and the thermostat police on the prowl, I’m not convinced we have two and a half years.

The socialist wish list is going to get exponentially longer as this budget crisis melts down.

We better defend ourselves or we’re going to be hit with a tidal wave black water.


27 posted on 01/16/2008 1:10:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: FightforFreedomCA
The writing of this prop is so confusing (feigns shock). So, basically it looks like they reduce it from 14 to 12 years, but allows them to stay longer than 14? Help?

It's actually pretty simple: People are limited to 12 years in legislative office. But the payload is that it resets the clock on those already facing term limits by wiping out the previous law, and starts counting the years from when it's passed. So if you have to leave the Assembly this year, that changes to 12 years from now.

Which is why I'm voting no on Prop 93. If it's such a great idea, it'll be back next year... Which it won't be, because all the liberals who are about to be kicked out will write a new term limit legislation that allows them back in.

28 posted on 01/16/2008 1:37:59 PM PST by kingu (Fred08 - The Constitution is the value I'm voting for. What value are you voting for?)
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To: squidly

Term Limits by Vince Flynn

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29 posted on 01/16/2008 2:16:46 PM PST by sheana
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To: Enterprise

Hi, I am to stupid to know what I am doing. Please vote for me so I can be trained.

That is what I hear.


30 posted on 01/16/2008 4:59:17 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: Enterprise; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Besides no on 93, 94, 95, 96, 97 what is the correct vote for what else is on the ballot.

We just received our absentee ballots and the bs re what is on the ballots is amazing.

The Indian gaming props are another amazing collection of bs.

Is there a web site where we can get the real scoop on these props?

Thanks.


31 posted on 01/17/2008 7:09:06 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave
The ads against 93 are showing up down here and there is a website for stopping 93....and see the links to KFI that I posted above.....

Now on the Indian gaming props....I don't have much to help...although the ads in support say the money for recommending a no vote is coming from Vegas and race tracks ...

32 posted on 01/17/2008 9:00:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Now on the Indian gaming props....I don’t have much to help...although the ads in support say the money for recommending a no vote is coming from Vegas and race tracks ...”

The fact that the funds for the no vote is from Vegas should be enough for us to vote yes.

Thanks for your comments and link.


33 posted on 01/17/2008 9:21:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Grampa Dave
I looked to see if maybe Michael Reagan or Roger Hedgecock had something on their sites but I couldn’t find anything. Looking over the voter information guide seems to be the best source.
34 posted on 01/17/2008 1:43:38 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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Schwarzenegger to endorse term-limit changes
(Prop 93, an about-face from his earlier stance)
LA Times | 1/14/08 | Jordan Rau
Posted on 01/14/2008 8:09:39 PM EST by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953742/posts


35 posted on 01/31/2008 12:04:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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