Posted on 01/16/2008 12:53:42 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Tense battle-ready standoff in Taiwan Strait
(Hong Kong=Yonhap News) Chung Juho = U.S. aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk (and its battle group) had 28-hour battle-ready standoff with a Chinese submarine and a missile destroyer in Taiwan Strait last November, it has been revealed.
This was the first military standoff between U.S. and China since the Taiwan Strait Crisis in 1996.
According to Jan. 16 dispatch by China Times in Taiwan, on Nov. 23 last year, Kitty Hawk battle group was en route to Japan after China refused its port call in Hong Kong, entering Taiwan Strait instead of using its normal route. China immediately dispatched a Song-class submarine which happened to be in the neighborhood, and had it track the battle group.
China also sent a missile destroyer Shenzhen from its Southern Fleet which was readying itself in Hainan Island for the (upcoming) visit to Japan, joining the Kitty Hawk watch.
The battle group with the carrier and its eight escort ships were sailing northward at an even distance away (from China and Taiwan,) and the Chinese submarine and the destroyer were following and watching the battle group from the western side along the Chinese mainland.
Carrier Kitty Hawk was alerted by a P3-C anti-submarine plane from U.S. forces in Japan that a Chinese submarine and its destroyer were following them. The group stopped sailing and went into battle-ready mode, sending out warplanes to protect the fleet.
After tense 28-hour standoff, the battle group was able to return to Yokosuka base in Japan only in Nov. 24.
According to an U.S. military source, the Chinese submarine sneaked into Taiwan Strait from west after taking a detour around Taiwan's southern shore from east, in an effort to monitor Kitty Hawk battle group. S-2T anti-submarine plane from Taiwanese navy was conducting the regular patrol in the area, but was not able to detect the submarine.
I support our athletes. Nuff said.
Could you elaborate? How would giving them a SIGINT ship have helped that situation?
Liston’s theory is that the Russians were suspected as having broken our code but it would be hard to prove.
His theory goes on to say the NSA placed a glitch in a machine, put it on the Pueblo, sent her in Harms Way and the rest is history.
I think the Pueblo had gotten some new equipment prior to her deployment (from the book).
I personally think it is a ‘conspiracy theory’ that would have made a decent ‘cloak and dagger’ story had it not happened in ‘real time’.
If you remember from WWII the NavIntel Community thought they had broken the Japanese Code but couldn’t sort out exact locations for certain designators.
To put it to the test, they sent out a message saying the fresh water supply was out on Wake Island.
When the Japanese put the word out about Wake Island, in code, it gave the cryptographers something to work with.
The ensuing result was that US Aircraft intercepted Adm Yamamato’s (sp) plane and subsequently shot it down, making him a statistic.
At least that is the ‘story’ as I have read and remember.
I was aware of the Congressional action. However, I thought that the powers that be otherwise managed to work around that and essentially give COSCO the base anyway. Maybe I’m wrong.
I’ll look around further. You could be right.
LLS
Could I offer some advice without seeming contrarian?
Since you only have a finite amount of time, please use it to lobby for better military assets instead of for an Olympic boycott. When we fight them, we need more F-22s, lots of the new KC-X tankers, a bigger submarine service, etc. Money from the Olympic games won’t matter if the ChiComs have to deal with ten Virginia class boats in their waters on day one of the war.
Thanks, I was ‘shooting from the hip’ there and didn’t even attempt a memory check, much less a ‘fact check’.....
Certainly anything but a big deal. :-)
Thanks for the ping!
I am already doing that... Ingalls, Trinity, Avondale and others are all located very close to me.
Thanks for the civility... it is sorely lacking these days!
LLS
“By the way, I thought that EP-3 crew acted shamefully, and I was appalled they were given a heroes welcome.”
Concur.
Just kidding...thanks for your patriotic passion and goood luck with your efforts.
Probably the safest place to be in the US military! :-)
I know, you must be proud... God be with him.
I am proud of him. Thank you and God bless you and your family.
Exactly...I would think they’d want to back off a little, as it could lead to disaster if the U.S. and countries like England, Australia and the like pulled out.
Hell Russia could stick a thumb in their eye even without a dog in the fight.
THANKS.
I am curious.
A friend is going out there to a conference and will ask around but probably won’t be connected to anyone who would know.
My faint impression is that instead of a long term lease or buying the base, the CHICOMS were allowed to rent it month to month or year to year or some such.
But I’m not certain.
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