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U.S. Carrier Kitty Hawk was in 28-hour Standoff with Chinese Submarine
Yonhap News ^
| 01/16/08
| Chung Juho
Posted on 01/16/2008 12:53:42 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: LibLieSlayer
I support our athletes. Nuff said.
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posted on
01/17/2008 7:31:01 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
To: xrmusn
Speaking of Pueblo, read an interesting book by a person named Robert A. Liston called The Pueblo Surrender that leaned to the theory that the Pueblo was given to the North Koreans because we suspected the Soviets were reading our mail.... Could you elaborate? How would giving them a SIGINT ship have helped that situation?
242
posted on
01/17/2008 7:35:57 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Liston’s theory is that the Russians were suspected as having broken our code but it would be hard to prove.
His theory goes on to say the NSA placed a glitch in a machine, put it on the Pueblo, sent her in Harms Way and the rest is history.
I think the Pueblo had gotten some new equipment prior to her deployment (from the book).
I personally think it is a ‘conspiracy theory’ that would have made a decent ‘cloak and dagger’ story had it not happened in ‘real time’.
If you remember from WWII the NavIntel Community thought they had broken the Japanese Code but couldn’t sort out exact locations for certain designators.
To put it to the test, they sent out a message saying the fresh water supply was out on Wake Island.
When the Japanese put the word out about Wake Island, in code, it gave the cryptographers something to work with.
The ensuing result was that US Aircraft intercepted Adm Yamamato’s (sp) plane and subsequently shot it down, making him a statistic.
At least that is the ‘story’ as I have read and remember.
243
posted on
01/17/2008 8:51:35 AM PST
by
xrmusn
To: xrmusn
You're close on the Wake story. They did it for Midway, not Wake, because they knew for sure that they had traffic indicating a major operation against "AF." So, they had every station in the Pacific that the Japanese might strike send out some fake detail (different for each station) in the clear as part of housekeeping traffic. They soon intercepted this message: "AF is short on fresh water." This allowed them to position Yorktown, Enterprise and Hornet to the northeast of Midway and dry gulch Nagumo's carriers.
244
posted on
01/17/2008 9:15:05 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
To: Calpernia
I was aware of the Congressional action. However, I thought that the powers that be otherwise managed to work around that and essentially give COSCO the base anyway. Maybe I’m wrong.
245
posted on
01/17/2008 9:17:13 AM PST
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: Quix
I’ll look around further. You could be right.
246
posted on
01/17/2008 9:19:21 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
To: Mr. Silverback
I know what you are saying and I can certainly understand your point... but IMHO aiding the chicoms trumps that. You are free to feel as you do... but I will continue to try to stop any American involvement with the chicoms. We will fight them one day... I want them as weak as is possible if and when that happens.
LLS
247
posted on
01/17/2008 9:28:16 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
To: LibLieSlayer
Could I offer some advice without seeming contrarian?
Since you only have a finite amount of time, please use it to lobby for better military assets instead of for an Olympic boycott. When we fight them, we need more F-22s, lots of the new KC-X tankers, a bigger submarine service, etc. Money from the Olympic games won’t matter if the ChiComs have to deal with ten Virginia class boats in their waters on day one of the war.
248
posted on
01/17/2008 9:35:42 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Thanks, I was ‘shooting from the hip’ there and didn’t even attempt a memory check, much less a ‘fact check’.....
249
posted on
01/17/2008 9:41:26 AM PST
by
xrmusn
To: xrmusn
Certainly anything but a big deal. :-)
250
posted on
01/17/2008 10:16:10 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
To: PhilDragoo
To: Mr. Silverback
I am already doing that... Ingalls, Trinity, Avondale and others are all located very close to me.
Thanks for the civility... it is sorely lacking these days!
LLS
252
posted on
01/17/2008 11:53:03 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
To: SkyPilot
“By the way, I thought that EP-3 crew acted shamefully, and I was appalled they were given a heroes welcome.”
Concur.
253
posted on
01/17/2008 2:34:52 PM PST
by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
To: LibLieSlayer
Ingalls? Well now the civility is over! My Grandfather worked for Bath Iron Works!
Just kidding...thanks for your patriotic passion and goood luck with your efforts.
254
posted on
01/17/2008 3:35:51 PM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
To: Inyo-Mono
My son is aboard the Kitty Hawk. Probably the safest place to be in the US military! :-)
I know, you must be proud... God be with him.
To: SomeCallMeTim
I am proud of him. Thank you and God bless you and your family.
256
posted on
01/17/2008 6:32:16 PM PST
by
Inyo-Mono
(If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
To: aroundabout
Exactly...I would think they’d want to back off a little, as it could lead to disaster if the U.S. and countries like England, Australia and the like pulled out.
Hell Russia could stick a thumb in their eye even without a dog in the fight.
To: Grampa Dave
The movie we were told not to go to.How come?
Saw it a long time back.....now I'm looking for it to see again.
258
posted on
01/17/2008 7:00:36 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
To: Calpernia
THANKS.
I am curious.
A friend is going out there to a conference and will ask around but probably won’t be connected to anyone who would know.
My faint impression is that instead of a long term lease or buying the base, the CHICOMS were allowed to rent it month to month or year to year or some such.
But I’m not certain.
259
posted on
01/17/2008 8:44:32 PM PST
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: Quix
Cosco Agency Inc
588 Harbor Scenic Way
Long Beach, CA 90802
(562) 495-5810
260
posted on
01/17/2008 8:47:28 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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