What irks me most are some that have opinions about things they know nothing about and jump to regrettable conclusions which they later deny.
But that's ok......since they never knew we were there until some incident happens.
Posted on 01/16/2008 12:53:42 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Ruskies vs Mexicans and Chinese . . . wheeeee either way, imho.
HOWEVER, I think someone ought to remake RED DAWN . . .
Ruskies vs Mexicans and Chinese . . . wheeeee either way, imho.
Bump for later read, and thanks ............... FRegards
QSL...translation?
That’s an interesting perception. I wonder if it will play out that way. It seems to me that when nation’s get hell bent for taking over, they seem to lose sight of sane rational objections to whizzing it all away.
Take care.
Your reading materials sound interesting.
You take care as well.
Dear President,Regarding the current situation in the Taiwan Straight Crisis and also the U.S. aircraft carriers and cruisers involvement, I would like to propose some important points to you in order not to endanger the U.S. interest based on the following:
1. Any negative outcomes of the U.S. decision in the China Issue will your administration position especially in the campaign year.
2. Why U.S. has to sent the aircraft carriers and cruisers to give China a possible excuse of foreign intervention and hence launch a real war? And, if the U.S. recognizes, "one China" policy, don't such conduct will cause a conflict for "intervening China's internal affairs?" Therefore, won't the recent inconsistent talks by the captains and some government officials in the mass media cause problems for the U.S. policy of not interference of China's internal affairs?
3. With the Chinese background and the recent six years business experiences in China and Taiwan, I think the U.S. senators and Congressmen do not fully know that most Chinese don't expect the intervention from the U.S.
4. Before last June, there is no conflict between the common goal of economic growth and cooperation of China and Taiwan, Li's visit [Taiwan President Lee Teng-Hui's visit to his alma mater, Cornell University] is the direct cause of the crisis.
5. Has the U.S. government considered if China starts to occupy the two small outer islands [Wu Chiu and Ma Tzu], will the U.S. proclaim war against China? or just withdraw its ships?
6. The complication of China's internal problems of military challenges to the Jiang Tze-Ming administration, together with other possible independence movements from Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Xin-Jiang and the returning of Hong Kong issue, the bluff to Taiwan Independence issue, Will U.S. be involved in such complicated internal matter by showing up the military ships at present moment.
7. Once the hard parties of the Chinese military inclined to grasp U.S. involvement as foreign intervention, is U.S. ready to face such challenge?
8. It is highly possible for China to launch real war, based on its past behavior in sino-vietnam war and then Bao-Tao war with Russia.
I hope the president will carefully consider these issues and make the decisions that are beneficial to the U.S./China and Taiwan altogether.
Yours sincerely,
Charlie Y.L. Trie
Ain't it the truth! Take care.
Thank you.
I was there in the 96 deal ... if anyone cares
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I was there for the ‘58 show...just another day at the office for us ‘gators’
I came from the surface community where the commander going down with the ship was not expected
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You must have been in after Boucher
It is hard to explain to people who won't believe you that any type of SIGINT or ELINT gathering is classified at very high levels.
Hey, I do stand by it. I see radical RINO factions hijacking the Republican party. Read whatever you want to it. That’s how I feel.
I assume you mean Lloyd Butcher. And yes, I was. But it was also that way before the Pueblo. This isn't the Japanese navy.
It was a 60’s war is bad movie but it had its moments.
Different times and different politics... this enemy is actively at war with us while we buy all the tainted crap that they build. No... to support the olympics is to support the chicoms. One word... Boycott! ... ALL that can be said!
LLS
The movie we were told not to go to.
I went with my wife and said “No Comment” before during and after the movie. I wasn’t the only NSGer or ASAer at the movie in the DC area.
You must have been in after Boucher
I assume you mean Lloyd Butcher.
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Thanks...Correct sp is BUCHER....
Yes, LCDR LLOYD BUCHER, CO USS Pueblo (AGER-2)
It was ‘perceived the Capt was Supreme Commander of his ship, but with the advent of virtually all “Spook” ships the Command was kind of ‘split’...with the Detachment Head having a say in what was happening....
For the most part the ALMIGHTY was “tradition” but when they couln’t prosecute Boucher because he wasn’t in complete command, they had to change the way things worked.
Speaking of Pueblo, read an interesting book by a person named Robert A. Liston called “The Pueblo Surrender” that leaned to the theory that the Pueblo was ‘given’ to the North Koreans because we suspected the Soviets were ‘reading our mail’....
It was fun to watch Poitier whip out that tape recorder and describe something different than what he'd just seen.
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