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EXCLUSIVE: New York Times ‘Killer Vet’ Story Exposed as Erroneous by Pro-Troop Group
Move America Forward ^ | 01/14/2008 | Melanie Morgan - Move America Forward

Posted on 01/14/2008 4:15:04 AM PST by Impeach98

January 14, 2008 – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Mary Pearson: (916) 441–6197 or Email: mary@moveamericaforward.org

EXCLUSIVE:

New York Times ‘Killer Vet’ Story
Exposed as Erroneous by Pro-Troop Group

SACRAMENTO- Move America Forward (website: www.MoveAmericaForward.org), the nation’s largest grassroots pro-troop organization, today announced that after vetting the numbers cited by The New York Times in their Sunday, January 13, 2008 story, “Across America, Deadly Echoes of Foreign Battles,” it became clear that the Times had engaged in demonstrably erroneous and false reporting.

It took seven New York Times researchers to find 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in the United States, or were charged with one, upon returning home to this country.

The Times made the false conclusion that: “Taken together, they paint the patchwork of a quiet phenomenon, tracing a cross-country trail of death and heartbreak.”

The Times documentation of 121 potential killings out of more than 1.5 million veterans of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Iraq) and Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), divided by 6 years of conflict results in a murder rate of just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 veterans per year.***

That murder rate is far lower than the murder rate for the general population, demonstrating that the experiences of military service – including having served in Iraq and Afghanistan – actually made it less likely for returning veterans to commit murder once they returned home, than the general population.

Given a census-estimated population of the United States of 300,000,000 persons in this country as of October 2006, and FBI-compiled statistics of 17,399 homicide offenders for 2006, the murder rate of the general population was 5.80 offenders per 100,000 on average – and a rate of approximately 7.67 per 100,000 for men.

Since all but one of the veterans cited by the Times who committed a killing in the U.S. was male, the comparable rate is approximately 7.67 incidents of murder per 100,000 people among the general male population, compared to just 1.34 incidents per 100,000 returning Iraq and Afghanistan veterans (of both genders).

“It’s obvious that the New York Times has an agenda of undermining the missions of our troops in the War on Terror, so much so that they are willing to resort to demonstrably false statistics to support their anti-troop bias,” said Melanie Morgan, Chairman of Move America Forward.

“The slander of our troops and veterans by the New York Times is unfortunately all too familiar. We heard this kind of nonsense about our returning veterans from Vietnam. It’s the same insult, different war.

“Perhaps the shameful staff of The New York Times has run out of war-time secrets to publish for America’s enemies to read, because now they’ve resorted to an all-out smear campaign of America’s finest men and women, who have served this country bravely and with distinction,” Morgan said.

In place of hard data to support their premise, The New York Times was instead forced to devote almost the entire portion of 6,321 word hit-piece to anecdotes of wrongdoing by individual veterans.

The New York Times even went so far as to trace back the phenomenon of murderous veterans to Greek mythology to back up their assertions of their report.

“The real mythology is the reporting by The New York Times,” Move America Forward’s Melanie Morgan concluded.

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NOTE TO REPORTERS/BLOGGERS: Melanie Morgan and a delegation of staffers from Move America Forward have just returned from a 10-day trip interviewing U.S. troops in Iraq and Kuwait.

To schedule an interview with Melanie Morgan or the other members who traveled to Kuwait and Iraq including: Gold Star Mom Debbie Lee (mother of first Navy Seal killed in Iraq), MAF Communications Director, Danny Gonzalez, and MAF Deputy Executive Director, Mary Pearson, contact Ryan Gill of Move America Forward at: (916) 441-6197 or via email at: mary@MoveAmericaForward.org

>> You can link to this report, which is published at the Move America Forward website, at this location: http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/MAF/MAFNews

*** Note that the central statistical measure is how many instances of alleged killings take place per 100,000 Iraq/Afghanistan war veterans who returned home. The New York Times might argue that our statistics are incorrect since the 1.5+ million Iraq/Afghanistan veterans have not been home during the entire 6 years of the war (especially since in the early onset of Operation Enduring Freedom troops were just arriving into the war zone).

However, Salon.com reports that as of January 31, 2005 there were 1,048,884 Americans who had fought in Iraq or Afghanistan. One can then calculate statistics from that point onward. Let’s give the New York Times the leeway of saying their alleged 121 incidents of killings by veterans occured during just the three years that elapsed since that time to the present. The murder rate per 100,000 people would still be approximately 3.5 incidents of murder per 100,000 returning Iraq/Afghanistan veterans.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; dbm; iraq; mediabias; medialies; moveamericaforward; newyorktimes; oefveterans; oifveterans; troops; veterans
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To: Gritty

Like your tagline, and appreciate that cartoon!


41 posted on 01/14/2008 5:35:43 AM PST by Impeach98 (Anti-war protestors should try holding rallies in Damascus and Tehran!)
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To: Impeach98

My daughter got me a DVD of Belushi’s greatest SNL hits for Xmas. (I have a FABULOUS daughter!)

Two bits have Belushi as a commentator getting increasingly enraged as he “comments” on the News. He finally convulses and throws himself out of his chair and off screen.

I think the NYT is channeling not Belushi, but the character he portrayed. Facts ain’t got nothing to do widdit!


42 posted on 01/14/2008 5:41:26 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Impeach98

:)


43 posted on 01/14/2008 5:43:29 AM PST by GOPJ (Rather than attacking Huckabee...look at why he's garnering such broad support.-Parker)
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To: Impeach98
Well, if the paper wants to talk body counts....

Illegal aliens murder12 Americans dailyDeath toll in 2006 higher than soldiers killed MidEast

But the paper'd rather slur our servicemen and women with some incredibly shoddy reporting.

And hats off to the folks who caught them at it.

44 posted on 01/14/2008 5:45:13 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Impeach98
Heh. Good times, that.

On a brighter note, I may be getting back into the printing bidness. It's just my type of work!

-Joan

45 posted on 01/14/2008 5:52:42 AM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te callas?")
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To: Steely Tom; Impeach98
"All the News That Fits Our Agenda."

Of course, a retraction wouldn't fit their agenda, so don't expect one. B*&%*&&s!

When I originally read their story I knew it was propaganda to cause the general population to fear vets. Why? So they wouldn't squawk too much when they started taking all the guns from vets, and refusing to grant them a clearance for purchasing one. So that makes the NYT an agent of the sicko gun grabbers. It seems some in government have an uncommon fear of armed vets.

Something surprising for our vets must be coming down the pike.

46 posted on 01/14/2008 5:55:12 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Impeach98
it became clear that the Times had engaged in demonstrably erroneous and false reporting.

“It’s obvious that the New York Times has an agenda of undermining the missions of our troops in the War on Terror

Surely it ain't so! I loathe the enemedia!

47 posted on 01/14/2008 5:57:38 AM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Impeach98
Erroneous is to an outright lie what homocide bombers are to activists.
48 posted on 01/14/2008 5:57:56 AM PST by cake_crumb (Global Warming : it's so warm in Antarctica, it's like summer down there!!)
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To: Impeach98

Worthless PROPAGANDISTS are worth another BTTT!


49 posted on 01/14/2008 6:00:42 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Impeach98

Just the MSM speading more lies they will never own up to once they are out of the news cycle.


50 posted on 01/14/2008 6:14:15 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: GOPJ
I loved this one:

“Perhaps the shameful staff of The New York Times has run out of war-time secrets to publish for America’s enemies to read, because now they’ve resorted to an all-out smear campaign of America’s finest men and women, who have served this country bravely and with distinction.”

51 posted on 01/14/2008 6:16:12 AM PST by cake_crumb (Global Warming : it's so warm in Antarctica, it's like summer down there!!)
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To: Impeach98
Yes, TNYT is trying for another myth hold over from the Vietnam War. That those that served were ticking time bombs. This story is right out of Stolen Valour.
52 posted on 01/14/2008 6:17:44 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrat, a synonym for Traitor)
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To: Impeach98

is it MSNBC that has a feature that highlights when the media gets it wrong? I doubt they would talk about this...


53 posted on 01/14/2008 6:20:15 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Member VRWC - Volvo-owning right-wing conspiracy.)
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To: JoanVarga
"Hey! Nobody told the NYT that math would be required."

Sure they knew. Al Gore's been tutoring them.

54 posted on 01/14/2008 6:21:07 AM PST by cake_crumb (Global Warming : it's so warm in Antarctica, it's like summer down there!!)
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To: Impeach98

Oh wait.

Real numbers don’t match the “war stories” written by the MSM?

Quick! Print it/re-print it/televise it before anybody else checks the statistics!


55 posted on 01/14/2008 6:23:37 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

MSNBC and NYT are joined at the hip. Don’t expect an assignment editor to put anyone on this beat.


56 posted on 01/14/2008 6:23:50 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Gritty

Love that toon. Saved to my collection. :-)


57 posted on 01/14/2008 6:31:50 AM PST by cake_crumb (Global Warming : it's so warm in Antarctica, it's like summer down there!!)
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To: Eastbound
"Of course, a retraction wouldn't fit their agenda, so don't expect one. B*&%*&&s!"

Neither would a slander suit, but it WOULD get their - and the public's - attention.

58 posted on 01/14/2008 6:34:50 AM PST by cake_crumb (Global Warming : it's so warm in Antarctica, it's like summer down there!!)
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To: Impeach98
Thankfully, their lies fall only on the ears of their few beloved readers. I know of NO ONE who reads the NY Slimes. At the local book store, they only have about 5 copies of it each day. I have rarely seen it sold out. Even our own local rag is run by liberal slime, and it is in a world of hurt. They are always calling, asking if you want to take out a home delivery subscription. The last time they called, I asked the woman, “do you have my name in your current subscriptions?” She said no. That is why I am calling. “I asked her did she not think there was a reason that I was not already a subscriber” and before she could respond, I told her, “I am not a subscriber to your trash, liberal, run by socialist slime balls, because I am an American, and I do not support the Marxists Dimocrats who support abortion, support the Islamic murderers, and are anti military.” There was total silence on the other end of the line. She could not say anything. I don’t think she had ever had anyone go off on her like that before. Then I told her, “don’t ever call my house again asking me to take out your stinking communist newspaper.” Click, she hung up.
59 posted on 01/14/2008 6:38:58 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

They’ve (the media) already exhumed and dusted off the “insane, homeless veterans” story from Viet Nam....so this shouldn’t surprise us.


60 posted on 01/14/2008 6:42:08 AM PST by cake_crumb (Global Warming : it's so warm in Antarctica, it's like summer down there!!)
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