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[Google's] White bread for young minds, says university professor
London Times ^ | January 14, 2008 | Alexandra Frean, Education Editor

Posted on 01/13/2008 7:44:46 PM PST by Aristotelian

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To: Aristotelian
To claim the Internet is producing dullards is nonsense.

I don't think she's claiming the Internet per se is what's creating intellectually or academically lazy students.

Google is a tool, albeit a left-leaning one. Kids just hit the first link that pops up in their search and accept is as gospel. How is that beneficial to scholastic endeavor?

It's the same type of people who constantly rely on Wikipedia as the Holy Grail of information. These folks are usually the easiest to defeat in online debate and message boards simply because they haven't thought past what "da Wiki" told them. Thankfully colleges are starting to wake up to this and refuse to accept students' work which cites Wikipedia and other similar sites.
21 posted on 01/13/2008 8:30:03 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Peter Libra
first words on the telegraph by Samuel Morse

Ah, the evil telegraph. The information that comes across it is white bread for the mind.

22 posted on 01/13/2008 8:30:42 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I found this with “white bread”

{Common trappings of the whitebread lifestyle include golf, Kenny G and Enya CDs, SUVs, an irrational fixation on lawn care, Golden Retrievers,...}


23 posted on 01/13/2008 8:31:22 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( _/|\_)
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To: ThomasThomas

Good one!


24 posted on 01/13/2008 8:40:00 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Aristotelian
Google is “white bread for the mind”, and the internet is producing a generation of students who survive on a diet of unreliable information, a professor of media studies will claim this week...As opposed to previous generations which grew up on a diet of unreliable information fed them by college professors and media types like Jason Blair and whatisname Duranty......
25 posted on 01/13/2008 8:45:59 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Aristotelian
Dinosaur media biting back with that article. Expediting its death I suppose. If it wasn't for the internet I would have never read this article.

Man talk about getting bad and unreliable information. This piece is a perfect example of that.

26 posted on 01/13/2008 8:50:44 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: Aristotelian

Of course he is against it.

The University of Google has no tenure.


27 posted on 01/13/2008 8:54:35 PM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: Aristotelian
In her inaugural lecture at the University of Brighton, Tara Brabazon will urge teachers at all levels of the education system to equip students with the skills they need to interpret and sift through information gleaned from the internet

Get all the kids able to count and identify change / bills back to me when I shop. Then worry about google.

28 posted on 01/13/2008 8:55:30 PM PST by Centurion2000 (It's only arrogance if you can't back it up.)
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To: WoofDog123
schools have often just given up trying to actively prevent wholesale plaguerism in homework assignments.

Not really. I'm a prof and a frequent visitor to an academic web site. Plagiarism is an oft-repeated topic and professors aren't afraid to give students an 'F' and send them to an academic review board. Professors can also use programs such as 'Turnitin' (turnitin.com) that search for plagiarized material. My university has a license for this product and students can be required to submit their papers into the program.

It seems that many students 1)were never taught proper citation in high school. They just don't know how to show the difference between their thoughts and someone else's. 2) Think that profs live in the classroom and don't know anything about the internet, searching, etc. and 3)Are so stupid that some of them have even plagiarized their own professor's work and didn't think they'd be caught!

I also think that there is an assumption that kids know how to do everything online and it really isn't true. They may be expert users, but they aren't really skilled in it, such as in determining authentic info on the web, etc.

I'm fortunate to teach on the graduate level and in a discipline where the students are well-read and write well. Though I warn about it in my syllabus (automatic 'F' and a report to the Dean), plagiarism isn't a problem for me.

29 posted on 01/13/2008 8:58:37 PM PST by radiohead (I stood up for Fred at the Caucus. What are YOU doing to put a Conservative in the White House?)
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To: Rennes Templar

They used to worry about calculators. From a technical perspective, Google and the web pages it gives instant access to are nothing short of manna from heaven. I have seen very little to fault the information I find when I get curious about some topic. A lot of the more advanced stuff is held “close to the vest” so you can’t find everything there is to know, but it’s moved accessibility to a new plateau. My grad school professor used to tell us never to accept anything we read in a paper at face value. On the internet, it is merely the illusion of authority that has been lost ... one doesn’t have to be reminded to read critically.


30 posted on 01/13/2008 8:59:37 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Aristotelian
Jealous much?

Just because people don't come running to their ilk to get their information they still think they are relevant.

The Internet and what we are doing right now is taking them out of the equation and they hate it.

31 posted on 01/13/2008 9:00:25 PM PST by Weaponier (Now is the time for Fred Thompson!!)
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To: Peter Libra
Correction to my post #19.

My quote should read ....to educate and edify.....

Not: the educate. More care needed chum.

32 posted on 01/13/2008 9:04:27 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Aristotelian
Last I checked, white bread was still food despite what the health nazis say.
33 posted on 01/13/2008 9:05:03 PM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: doc30
Other people here claim the sun orbits the earth and they all have internet research to back them up.

OK, so why do newspapers and daily local news list the sunrise and sunset times, if the sun does not orbit the earth? Duh!

34 posted on 01/13/2008 9:05:42 PM PST by jimmyray
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To: Right Wing Assault
Reading Free Republic can give very misleading results, too.

Sacrilege!

35 posted on 01/13/2008 9:09:03 PM PST by jimmyray
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To: OCCASparky
It's the same type of people who constantly rely on Wikipedia as the Holy Grail of information.

Google purportedly has a Wikipedia killer in the works. Goggle Knol.

36 posted on 01/13/2008 9:16:18 PM PST by Mojave
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To: ThomasThomas

First two hits are Freerepublic.com. Third hit is Wiki entry. Of the rest of page 1, all but one or two are conservative sites referencing FR. Google done good.


37 posted on 01/13/2008 9:17:47 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Aristotelian

Your comment is half right. I don’t clap when my 14 year old wipes her butt but i did when she was 3. The bottom line is if this is the first positive step for a mostly lacking generation of publicly educated young people we should encourage it. The MSM and the Democrats are proof positive young people are dullard just by their very existence. This kind of encouragement could lead to millions of new freepers.


38 posted on 01/13/2008 9:26:33 PM PST by enduserindy (Living in Indy just got better! Go Colts! Hi mom! Vote America! (I had to do it.))
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To: Beowulf9

http://www.lexrex.com/informed/otherdocuments/thelaw/thelaw.htm
All should read who haven’t.
This is who he was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Bastiat


39 posted on 01/13/2008 9:30:14 PM PST by enduserindy (Living in Indy just got better! Go Colts! Hi mom! Vote America! (I had to do it.))
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To: Aristotelian
I tend to agree, especially since it seems that his definition is "unreliable information" seems to be any information not carefully vetted by the academic community. Even textbooks can contain numerous errors and misapplications of key concepts.

Still, there is a kernel of truth to what he says. The ease with which information can be accessed can breed intellectual laziness if people don't think critically about the information they dig up on Google or Wikipedia. It takes effort to filter out a lot of the crap on the internet, but, that is true of any medium.

On the internet, just as anywhere else, one must always consider the source.
40 posted on 01/13/2008 9:37:05 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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