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Giuliani Rattled, Cancels Remarks as Pro-lifers Disrupt Sunday Bus Tour Stop
Christian Newswire ^ | 1/13/08 | Christian Newswire

Posted on 01/13/2008 1:51:13 PM PST by wagglebee

"A third of my generation is dead because of politicians like Giuliani." -- Steven Pokorny, age 28, at Giuliani during meeting in Miami, Sunday, Jan. 13

Contact: Joseph Landry, 406-860-9738; Steven Pokorny, 216-346-9765; Randall Terry, 904-461-0834; all with The "Stop Rudy" Tour

MIAMI, Jan. 13 /Christian Newswire/ -- Rudy Giuliani was rattled by pro-life advocates and canceled his speech at his first bus-tour event Sunday in Miami.  Activists have planned confrontations with Rudy for every stop of his Florida bus tour.  Photos available online.

On Sunday, Jan. 13, at approximately 12:15 PM, pro-life activists were in the crowd at The Green Street Cafe (located at 3110 Commodor Plaza, Coconut Grove Florida, just outside Miami) waiting for Giuliani to begin his Florida Bus Tour.

When Rudy Giuliani arrived, Joseph Landry (age 26) was within 5 feet of the candidate, and began yelling: You are a baby killer! You are a baby killer! Florida is pro-life! Rudy wants public funding for abortion!"  See news report. Law enforcement officials immediately escorted Mr. Landry from the area, while Mr. Landry continued his monologue.

Within Minutes, Steven Pokorny, age 28, stood to his feet and cried out, "A third of my generation is dead because of politicians like Giuliani! Giuliani wants to kill children and have you pay for it!" Law enforcement did not stop Mr. Pokorny.

At that point, Giuliani left the building, without addressing the crowd.

Mr. Pokorny was able to follow Mr. Giuliani for more than a minute, yelling out about Rudy's pro-choice, pro-homosexual agenda. Again, Mr. Pokorny was not interrupted by police.

Giuliani officials had no idea how many pro-lifers were in the crowd, and how many more times Giuliani would be confronted. This might explain why Mr. Giuliani did not make any remarks - and left the meeting without addressing supporters.

Pro-lifers have scheduled confrontations with Rudy on every stop of his Florida Bus tour.

Video footage of the confrontations with Rudy is available upon request.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; fl2008; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; moralabsolutes; prolife; randallterry; rudy
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To: fightinJAG
The form of this protest will have no effect whatsoever on the outcome of the election except to fire up the hardest core of the pro-abortion contingent.

It will get Rooty out of the race.

61 posted on 01/13/2008 2:33:21 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: khnyny

All this does is bring out the pro-abortion zealots.


62 posted on 01/13/2008 2:33:21 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: wagglebee

John Hagee’s sermon today mentioned that Social Security is going to fail because we have aborted 48 million Americans, thanks to Rudy, Hillary, Obama and their ilk.


63 posted on 01/13/2008 2:33:43 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: wagglebee

The following two posts were brilliant, no need to comment further.

Posted by okie01 to svcw
On News/Activism ^ 01/13/2008 2:21:35 PM PST · 37 of 58 ^

I see no benefit to the pro-life cause screaming and harassing like banshees.
There was none. Indeed, if the scene was taped, it will be used against the Republican nominee — regardless of his stance on abortion.

We deplore the behavior shown toward conservative speakers on college campuses. This is no different. Certainly, it’s nothing to celebrate.
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Posted by khnyny to svcw
On News/Activism ^ 01/13/2008 2:16:00 PM PST · 28 of 58 ^

I see no benefit to the pro-life cause screaming and harassing like banshees.

Actually, I agree with you. It is counter-productive. Screaming and harrassing like banshees just makes pro-life people look like fanatics and gives good prime time video to the MSM. It also alienates people and/or candidates who might be vearing pro-life.

There are smarter ways to achieve pro-life objectives.


64 posted on 01/13/2008 2:35:03 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: pray4liberty

That is also the main reason we have 20 million or so illegal aliens in America, we don’t have enough workers.


65 posted on 01/13/2008 2:35:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; blahblahblah...

Please!

Do you not understand the difference between the various times, places and manners in which one might tell the truth?

This is just dumb.


66 posted on 01/13/2008 2:35:23 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: wagglebee

I believe that McCain, Mitt and Huck would all lose to Obama or Hillary in the general election.

Therefore, disrupting Rudy’s campaign means we will have a Democrat in the White House in 2008.

The law of unintended consequences...


67 posted on 01/13/2008 2:36:14 PM PST by KeithCu
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To: wagglebee; KeithCu
The first amendment gives you the right to stand in line and ask a question, but not to interrupt!!

Bill of Rights * Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting
an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or
abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or
the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The U.S. Supreme Court recognized the importance of this freedom in the 1937 case De Jonge v. State of Oregon, writing that "the right to peaceable assembly is a right cognate to those of free speech and free press and is equally fundamental." According to the Court the right to assemble is "one that cannot be denied without violating those fundamental principles which lie at the base of all civil and political institutions."

* * *

The First Amendment protects peaceful, not violent, assembly. However, there must a "clear and present danger" or an "imminent incitement of lawlessness" before government officials may restrict free-assembly rights. Otherwise, the First Amendment's high purpose can too easily be sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.


68 posted on 01/13/2008 2:36:19 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: pray4liberty

Correction: he didn’t mention the politicians by name, that’s my post.


69 posted on 01/13/2008 2:36:23 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: bahblahbah

Oh no, you must by a liberal abortionist if you disagree with the tactics of those that make it a goal in life to TURN PEOPLE OFF on the pro-life movement by behaving like irrational ninnies.

/ sarc

Funding free ultrasounds for newly pregnant women, promoting the publishing of early first trimester ultrasounds to the general public— those are things that actually have an impact on people and cause them to realize it’s a BABY being killed. Screeching inanities at politicians who aren’t in favor of stoning those who are “pro-life” does such damage to the cause, I can’t help but wonder if they really WANT to reduce/ eliminate abortions or just give themselves a “cause” to rally to.

But I’ve been down this road before...


70 posted on 01/13/2008 2:37:04 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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To: nicmarlo; KeithCu
I had no idea that First Amendment rights were suspended at rallies

This is reasoning that typifies DU.

Perhaps you have never heard the teaching that not everything that is allowed is beneficial or helpful or edifying?

71 posted on 01/13/2008 2:38:12 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: fightinJAG

The GOP has been pro-life for decades, why is it wrong to protest a pro-abortion candidate for the GOP presidential nomination?


72 posted on 01/13/2008 2:38:21 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

You are correct. Before 1980 even the RATS were pro-gun.

Remember the Jimmy Carter turkey hunting photo ops?


73 posted on 01/13/2008 2:39:49 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Ronald Reagan changed his position on abortion, as well. I am willing to give Romney the benefit of the doubt.

Rudy is indeed a liberal Republican, and I won't vote for him in the primary. But he would do much better in the war on terror than Hitlery or Hussein Obama or the Breck Girl. He would save more American lives in that respect.

74 posted on 01/13/2008 2:39:56 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: wagglebee

How many times: GHWB did not say “no new taxes” he said “no nude Texans”.


75 posted on 01/13/2008 2:40:31 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: fightinJAG; KeithCu
Perhaps you have never heard the teaching that not everything that is allowed is beneficial or helpful or edifying?

The statement he proffered had absolutely NOTHING to do with what was "beneficial, or helpful, or edifying" and EVERYTHING to do with what was "allowed." First Amendment rights are NOT suspended when a politician gets off the bus, or walks toward a building, or even plans to speak in front of a crowd.

We do not live in Marxist China.

76 posted on 01/13/2008 2:41:20 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: Beagle8U

Jimmy Carter grew up in southwest Georgia (which has some of the best hunting in the world) at a time when just about every man there was a lifelong hunter, it would have been abnormal if he wasn’t a hunter.


77 posted on 01/13/2008 2:41:32 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; KeithCu; Petronski
Do you not support the Bill of Rights (or the rest of the Constitution for that matter)?

You know very well it's not an issue of what is allowed, or an issue of someone's "rights," but an issue of what is appropriate, helpful, beneficial and useful.

It would be helpful, waggie, if you would address the actual question---do you think it adds to the political process to have candidates shouted down to the point of being unable to speak, or do you think it only matters what the point of the protest is?

It has nothing to do with one's rights to protest. I'm sorry, that's ridiculous and I think you know that very well.

78 posted on 01/13/2008 2:42:04 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: svcw; khnyny

“There are smarter ways to achieve pro-life objectives.”

Again, what are those smarter ways that will stop abortion dead in it’s tracks ????????????


79 posted on 01/13/2008 2:42:29 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: okie01

Thank you.


80 posted on 01/13/2008 2:42:55 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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