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To: canuck_conservative

If it wasn’t for the Serbs, Europe would have been speeking Turkish for the last few hundred years.


4 posted on 01/13/2008 12:10:43 AM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: SatinDoll

I think it’s important we support Serbia and open economic relations with them ASAP. Otherwise they will be economically tied to Russia and China.


8 posted on 01/13/2008 12:38:23 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: SatinDoll
If it wasn’t for the Serbs, Europe would have been speeking Turkish for the last few hundred years.

The historical fact of the matter is that the Ottoman Turks conquered most of Serbia before Columbus discovered America and conquered Belgrade in 1521. Serbia only managed to completely free itself from Ottoman rule in 1867.

If you want to thank somebody for saving the rest of Europe from the Ottomans, thank the Austrians, the Germans, the Poles, the Spaniards and the Italians.

Battle of Vienna, 1683

Battle of Lepanto, 1571

10 posted on 01/13/2008 12:49:43 AM PST by Polybius
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If it wasn’t for the Serbs, Europe would have been speeking Turkish for the last few hundred years.

The Turks were able to get far past the Serbs, all the way to Vienna, so that statement's a stretch at best. If you want to thank someone, try King John Sobieski of Poland, the hero of The Battle of Vienna (1683).


11 posted on 01/13/2008 12:52:00 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: SatinDoll

You wrote:

“If it wasn’t for the Serbs, Europe would have been speeking Turkish for the last few hundred years.”

Uh, if not for the Austrians, Poles and Russians, Europe would be speaking Turkish. The Serbs lost to the Turks in the 14th century and didn’t fully regain their independence until the 19th century. By the 19th century the Turks had no strength to conquer Europe.

Before the 19th century - when everyone called Turkey the “Sick man of Europe” - did Serbia routinely beat the Turks in major battles?

If what you said was true then how did the Turks conquer Hungary or get to the gates of Viena?


23 posted on 01/13/2008 5:19:43 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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