You guys are so blind it isn’t even funny. If you for one second think that an Ultra conservative like Fred Thompson is electable... you are DEAD wrong. If we (GOP) want to have any chance of winning this race, we need to have someone who is not so far right.
Mike Huckabee did not need to refute all the things Fred said about him because he did so during the debate. Bottom line is that Huck was the Gov. in a very democratic state. I shouldn’t have to explain how that might effect his record.
-Huck wants the FairTax which is the most conservative of any plan.
-He wants to help out the Middle Class, but he has NEVER once said he doesn’t want to help the rich.
-Bottom line is... Fred will not win this nomination. McCain is doubtful. Romney will not win. Huck is the best bet. He is leading in the national polls. Many people find him refreshing.
Why is there so much hatred for Huck on this sight?
Welcome to Free Republic.
I will not support Mike Huckabee.
Never mind that he was either a Lt. governor or governor for much longer that he was a pastor.
Wrong! Reagan was a true conservative and he won in two landslides. If Schmuckabee gets the nomination, he will lose in a landslide. Leftists and "moderates" (liberals) will not vote for a Leftist Republican. They will vote for the "real thing", a Leftist Democrat. Many conservatives will just not vote for your guy, whether you like it or not.
Why is there so much hatred for Huck on this sight?
Sight = site ... This is very very simple. FRee Republic is a CONSERVATIVE forum. Schmuckabee is a RINO, a lying Liberal who tries to convince us he is a conservative. With his views and his record, he belongs in the Democrat party.
elephant08 Since Jan 12, 2008
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Because Huck's an immature, babyish fool who has no concept of things like "gravitas", "maturity", or "tastefulness"? Because Huck is a liberal who has no concept of foreign policy, and who's economic agenda would turn us into a third world country if it were followed through to it's logical conclusions? Sheesh, I don't see why Huck doesn't just call Fred a poopyhead now, and be done with it.
It's not hatred, you think supporters of Thompson and Hunter hate the Huckster?
I find it easy to separate the man and his politics, Huck may be a nice guy but we don't want or need a RINO as POTUS.
Looks like you forgot which site your posting on, FR is for Conservatives.
I am not willing to vote for Huckabee because some think of him as a centralist and more electable.
Fred is eminently more conservative, sometimes all a man has is his princlples and I am not willing to sacrifice them.
Let’s say your right about a candidate needing to have liberal beliefs in order to become President. Then, why wouldn’t I just vote Democrat? Just because someone has an R in front of their name doesn’t make them a better choice.
If “we” need to nominate someone like this just to win, I’m in the wrong party.
Your argument that Huckabee was a Governor in a very Democrat state, hence his record, is very true, and the biggest reason I won’t vote for him. Your saying that he will do what he has to in order to remain popular, by Governing by opinion polls.
It isn’t hatred. It is dismay, embarrassment, disbelief. I am not sure when you started following Gomer Huck Pyle, but it seems people who have been watching him closely don’t see him the same way.
This black dude in Michigan has been organizing democrats for Huck. I saw this dude with my own eyes call huck Gomer Pyle. His intent is to knock out Romney.
Dismay: Gomer’s “if we are nice to the terrorists they won’t hate us any more” and all his other foreign affair gaffs,not to mention his working with Mexico and using arkansas money to set up a mexican consulate for $1.00 a year, and his “OUR CHANCE TO MAKE UP FOR SLAVERY ......(TAKING IN AND TAKING CARE OF ILLEGALS) I know what he says now, but that was after the flak.
Go study the Christian Democratic movement in Europe and get back with us...
Why is there so much hatred for Huck on this sight?
Don't confuse hatred for a complete lack of respect for a RINO. He may be pro-life and pro-gun, but that covers his conservative stances. He's a zero on illegal immigration and more.
First, I actually gave money to Huckabee - something of which I am now deeply ashamed and regret.
Second, claiming Thompson is unelectable because he is an ultra-conservative shows you neither believe conservatism is a better approach, nor that conservatism can win. When conservatives start believing that, we are lost - which is why it was so important to discredit Harry Reid when he declared Iraq lost.
Conservatism only looses in the US when it gets water-downed and redefined, kind of like the way Huckabee does it.
Third, you are surrendering before the fight. Winning an election on the terms you suggest - electing somebody who openly grants moral equivalency to the likes of North Korea and Iraq - is to surrender the country and the free world. Look up the definition of Pyrrhic Victory, and that sums it up.
Fourth, of all people - Huckabee supporters - to use poll numbers as proof of electability or un-electability - is the height of hypocrisy; you’re own candidate shows what polling, particularly national polling, is worth at this stage.
Fifth, at least you admit he is not so far right, which is to say, he is really a liberal on foreign policy, federalism, and fiscal policy.
Sixth, he isn’t even running for president, he is running for Vice President - what was it you said about being blind - you can’t see he is trying to be McCain’s VP choice?
Seventh, he never responded in the debate, because he has no response. His statist approach to governance and inexplicable ignorance on foreign policy were on parade as the liberal democrat policies they are; and he couldn’t refute it. Which is why his media buddies were asking for a response - he failed to give one in the debate, and is still failing.
Eighth - a “sight” is something you see with or shoot through (like a receiver sight or tang sight), this is a “site”, as in website.
Ninth - Some on FR do hate. I find it as unfortunate as you do. Still, most seem to be laying out clear arguments on why they disagree with him, which is fair. I don’t hate Huckabee, but I do feel betrayed and tricked. There is a lot of passion - that would have something to do with the seriousness of the stakes...
Well, first of all it's a site, not a "sight". Anyway, I think Fred Thompson said it best:
It's an important issue, because I think it demonstrates what we're about here today. I think that Governor Huckabee's campaign manager said it accurately in terms of what they believe. They believe that it is over.
This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party and its future. On the one hand, you have the Reagan revolution. You have the Reagan coalition of limited government and strong national security.
On the other hand, you have the direction that Governor Huckabee would take us in. He would be a Christian leader, but he would also bring about liberal economic policies, liberal foreign policies.
He believes we have an arrogant foreign policy and the tradition of, blame America first.
He believes that Guantanamo should be closed down and those enemy combatants brought here to the United States to find their way into the court system eventually.
He believes in taxpayer-funded programs for illegals, as he did in Arkansas.
He has the endorsement of the National Education Association, and the NEA said it was because of his opposition to vouchers.
He said he would sign a bill that would ban smoking nationwide. So much for federalism. So much for states' rights. So much for individual rights.
That's not the model of the Reagan coalition, that's the model of the Democratic Party.
Mike is that you?
If you think Fred is far right, you need to go back where you belong. DU.
You are not helping the Mikester, at least not on a conservative forum.
Go away new GOP clown shill. People like you come a dime a dozen on the cheap streets.
The only way we will win the WH is with a dead on conservative,like Fred. The only reason he hasn't moved up higher is due to lack of positive media coverage, the media is pushing the candidates they want, all of the liberals and Rinos. In the South Fred will shine in the primaries and Huckabee will not.
BTW, if you don't like right wing politics you should not be on this forum, there are several other forums for left wing politics, DU being the best known of these. Perhaps you should try posting there. Republican is supposed to be conservative, if you want liberal then should register as a Democrat or maybe you already are.
When you can distingish between "Sight & Site", and learn to recognize that "Experience and Intelligence" creates "Vision" -- not "blindness" ----- then your comments as a newby may one day be recognized as an intelligent contribution...
The Huckster has earned every bit of contempt being showered on his illegal alien pandering, tax increasing, snake oil peddling and lying ass.
Lost your way, DU troll?
I can only speak for myself, not anyone else on this "sight" (site).
Huckabee is as phony as a three dollar bill.
If this were 1850 he would be selling snake-oil as medicine.
Huckabee flip-flops as much as Flipper.
Huckabee has as much sincerity as Eddie Haskell in stripes.