Posted on 01/12/2008 7:14:42 AM PST by TornadoAlley3
MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. – Asked about Fred Thompson’s “hatchet” attack against him at Thursday's Republican debate, Mike Huckabee joked to Joe Scarborough that he thought “Fred needs some Metamucil. I think it would help a lot if he gets some. You know, he was in a bad mood last night.”
On the bus with reporters on Route 96 in Michigan from Lansing to Grand Rapids, Huckabee explained his Metamucil comment saying, “You have to understand the context of the show….It’s not quite as irreverent as Imus…not quite Stephen Colbert but it’s serious topics with an edge.”
“I really do believe if people can’t have some sense of humor as they approach this stuff, then it causes everybody to be so locked down and consultant driven that their campaigns become so boring because all they’re going to do is give this robotic answer to everything that’s very carefully scripted. I promise you, you won’t have moments like this,” Huckabee said, gesturing to the handful of reporters that had gathered around him for an on-the-record conversation that would last about 40 minutes.
“Does Romney do these?” Huckabee asked the reporters. No, replied one. Neither does Thompson, said another.
“If I thought I couldn’t be a human being. That I gotta wait till six handlers tell me what I can and can’t say and I have to read it, you know, it’s not worth it.”
Looks like Shucksters are rolling today. Time for a reality check.
Let’s look at Fred Thompson on the issues.
Although tough talking on border control, Fred Thompson has a rather weak record from his time in the Senate. Americans for Better Immigration only gave him a career grade of C. And on chain migration, visa lotteries, reducing unnecessary visas, asylum fraud, and reducing amnesties, he received rather low marks.*
Thompson is almost certainly pro-abortion, regardless what he feigns. He has said, “The ultimate decision must be made by the woman.” In other words, he believes it’s a “choice.”
Thompson is pro-affirmative action, and his two votes in the Senate guaranteed that under-qualified minorities would be given preference over Euro-Americans (i.e. white people). Thompson obviously believes that victimology should trump hard work.
And like all neocons, Thompson supports free trade, which is destroying our economy and undermining our sovereignty. Historically, conservatives opposed free trade, and they should; it’s national suicide. But Thompson like many GOP cheerleaders has been “neoconned” on this issue.
In foreign policy, Fred Thompson is an adamant neocon globalist. He is a fellow at the neocon American Enterprise Institute, and a member of the neocon / neoliberal Council on Foreign Relations, which supports the creation of a North American Union and the eradication of American sovereignty.**
In short, Fred Thompson is no real conservative. He’s a neocon globalist. Only look at his past actions, memberships and words.
There, much better.
First, I actually gave money to Huckabee - something of which I am now deeply ashamed and regret.
Second, claiming Thompson is unelectable because he is an ultra-conservative shows you neither believe conservatism is a better approach, nor that conservatism can win. When conservatives start believing that, we are lost - which is why it was so important to discredit Harry Reid when he declared Iraq lost.
Conservatism only looses in the US when it gets water-downed and redefined, kind of like the way Huckabee does it.
Third, you are surrendering before the fight. Winning an election on the terms you suggest - electing somebody who openly grants moral equivalency to the likes of North Korea and Iraq - is to surrender the country and the free world. Look up the definition of Pyrrhic Victory, and that sums it up.
Fourth, of all people - Huckabee supporters - to use poll numbers as proof of electability or un-electability - is the height of hypocrisy; you’re own candidate shows what polling, particularly national polling, is worth at this stage.
Fifth, at least you admit he is not so far right, which is to say, he is really a liberal on foreign policy, federalism, and fiscal policy.
Sixth, he isn’t even running for president, he is running for Vice President - what was it you said about being blind - you can’t see he is trying to be McCain’s VP choice?
Seventh, he never responded in the debate, because he has no response. His statist approach to governance and inexplicable ignorance on foreign policy were on parade as the liberal democrat policies they are; and he couldn’t refute it. Which is why his media buddies were asking for a response - he failed to give one in the debate, and is still failing.
Eighth - a “sight” is something you see with or shoot through (like a receiver sight or tang sight), this is a “site”, as in website.
Ninth - Some on FR do hate. I find it as unfortunate as you do. Still, most seem to be laying out clear arguments on why they disagree with him, which is fair. I don’t hate Huckabee, but I do feel betrayed and tricked. There is a lot of passion - that would have something to do with the seriousness of the stakes...
Well, first of all it's a site, not a "sight". Anyway, I think Fred Thompson said it best:
It's an important issue, because I think it demonstrates what we're about here today. I think that Governor Huckabee's campaign manager said it accurately in terms of what they believe. They believe that it is over.
This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party and its future. On the one hand, you have the Reagan revolution. You have the Reagan coalition of limited government and strong national security.
On the other hand, you have the direction that Governor Huckabee would take us in. He would be a Christian leader, but he would also bring about liberal economic policies, liberal foreign policies.
He believes we have an arrogant foreign policy and the tradition of, blame America first.
He believes that Guantanamo should be closed down and those enemy combatants brought here to the United States to find their way into the court system eventually.
He believes in taxpayer-funded programs for illegals, as he did in Arkansas.
He has the endorsement of the National Education Association, and the NEA said it was because of his opposition to vouchers.
He said he would sign a bill that would ban smoking nationwide. So much for federalism. So much for states' rights. So much for individual rights.
That's not the model of the Reagan coalition, that's the model of the Democratic Party.
Huckabee is absolutely right on this one. If people are so thin skinned they can't enjoy a little give and take, they're playing in the wrong arena.
Just like their candidate...
Mike is that you?
I am so over PC and lack of humor.
Fred and people he seems to represent around here come off as a bunch of marginalized cranks. Sorry, that’s not what the nation’s looking for.
If you think Fred is far right, you need to go back where you belong. DU.
You are not helping the Mikester, at least not on a conservative forum.
Go away new GOP clown shill. People like you come a dime a dozen on the cheap streets.
I'm sure people who back Obama and Hillery feel the same way.
“WHY WHY WHY are people falling for the Huckster?”
Because, except for many on Free Republic, folks find him highly likeable and down home. Values, one wife, chubby kids and a sense of humor about himself and others.
OK, how about this “flip joke, human” moment. “I know that I don’t have the Foreign Policy experience of some of the other candidates, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night”. Do you think that is funny?
how noble...and terribly stupid.
Yeah defiantly a troll. I am still laughing at him calling Fred a “Ultra conservative”.
By the way, what does your answer have to do with being a President?
Fat kids and one wife won’t do alot to help this nation.
Stupidity rules.
I do hope you were being sarcastic, if you were, I apologize.
You prove my point. I didn’t say he’d make the best president, just why a lot of folks “like” him.
LOL! Good one!
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