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1 posted on 01/11/2008 3:11:39 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Whats wrong with california???


2 posted on 01/11/2008 3:13:34 AM PST by x_plus_one (The entire Islamic moral universe devolves solely from the life and teachings of Muhammad.)
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To: Sub-Driver

FASCIST state.


3 posted on 01/11/2008 3:15:31 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Sub-Driver

Inching toward the “mark of the beast”. The good news is at the same time there will be an alternative. But for some strange reason you don’t here about the “mark of Christ.”

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


4 posted on 01/11/2008 3:21:27 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Okay, that is well past being a nanny state and into outright George Orwellian Fascism.

Come on, please tell me how liberal trash can honestly argue that the right to privacy extends to ones sex life in the home, ala SCOTUS ruling striking down sodomy laws and making sexual deviance legal, and then reach into that same house and control your heat.

How can they even believe for one moment that it is not Fascist to do this in the interest of the State?

7 posted on 01/11/2008 3:33:07 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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Well, so far it’s just a proposal by a regulatory commission but these things, once proposed, have an endless half life. If it’s rejected now the idea will never die and if Kali institutes the policy you can bet at least 10 states will be right behind them. I guess you can always buy a portable electric heater, that is until they put a regulatory device on your meter to ensure you’re not using more than your allotted share.

Kali’s answer to the energy crisis: rationing


8 posted on 01/11/2008 3:37:16 AM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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To: Sub-Driver

California seems to be a state of mind,
what is wrong with these people ?
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U.S. denial of California emissions waiver criticized

Sen. Boxer, chairman of a Senate environment panel, says she might subpoena documents concerning possible White House interference.
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Two weeks before Christmas, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger abruptly announced that he would declare “a fiscal emergency” in January, a declaration that would require the California legislature to meet quickly in special session - with the authority to slash state spending across the board by 10 per cent. California was headed, he said, for a budget deficit of $14-billion (U.S.) - precisely the kind of crisis that put him in the governor’s mansion in Sacramento in the first place.

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California’s net loss of 1.3 million people, from 1997 through 2006, cost the state billions of dollars in lost tax revenue - because many of the people who fled were high-income earners and because California relies disproportionately on revenue from highly progressive personal income tax rates. The richest 10 per cent pay 75 per cent of the state’s personal income tax revenue.

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California’s losses are Nevada’s gains. From 1997 through 2006, California GDP increased 80 per cent; Nevada GDP increased 123 per cent. California personal income increased 74 per cent; Nevada personal income increased 120 per cent. California net domestic in-migration (as a percentage of population) fell 3.5 per cent; Nevada net in-migration grew 20 per cent.


9 posted on 01/11/2008 3:54:57 AM PST by IrishMike (Liberalism is Jihad from within)
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According to Crosby, the typical entry-level home in the Ranch will have an average 9,500 square feet, composed of an average of four to five bedrooms, three to four bathrooms, and several additional rooms for relaxing and entertaining.

Link

10 posted on 01/11/2008 3:59:14 AM PST by elli1
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To: Sub-Driver

What are they going to call the thermostat controls.

“Terminators”


12 posted on 01/11/2008 5:00:55 AM PST by Nextrush (NO WAY MCCAIN but I remain uncommitted.)
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“Welcome to the Peoples’ Republic of Kalifornia. We’ll take that thermostat; you’ll need one of these approved thermostats. Cold? No, your’re not cold; or hot, for that matter. WE know the precise temperature at which you function best, and we’ll see to it that temperature is maintained.
Now, move along.”

So, to make up for the state’s inability and unwillingness to address the energy needs of a growing economy and society, they will control the available resources and further restrict free choice by consumers. Of course, there’s likely a way around all this silliness for those with the resources to pay for them.

The libs in San Fran-sissy-sco are probably cheering this development.


13 posted on 01/11/2008 5:49:09 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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To: Sub-Driver

They can not make me turn mine up, oops I forgot, I don’t have a stinking thermostat.


14 posted on 01/11/2008 6:01:37 AM PST by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: Sub-Driver

An enterprising inventor should get busy inventing the attachable device that heats the thermostat in the summer (thereby causing it to cool your house beyond what the state desires), and cooling the thermostat in the winter (for the opposite effect).

Of course, I’m sure they’ll outlaw such devices.

Carlos.


15 posted on 01/11/2008 6:04:26 AM PST by Carlucci
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Why would an energy company, who sells energy to make a living, want to sell less of it? It defies logic.

Right before Christmas there was an article in the Stockton Record touting an new electronic recycling company. The article basically said that we should all not buy any new electronic for Christmas and just keep using our old stuff. Does something seem to defy logic here? Are we trying to put out of business the business we pretend to promote?

Face it liberalism defies logic.

17 posted on 01/11/2008 6:41:27 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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Actually it sounds like a sweet service *for a private company to offer to willing customers*

Seriously if a private company could hook up with a utility and say would you offer a customer a discount if they had a system to automatically lower their energy (heat nat/gas) during times when you are paying peak for it?

If the answer is yes go to the energy providers customers and offer the service for a fee which is a % less than they would save... Everybody wins..


20 posted on 01/11/2008 10:41:43 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Sub-Driver

Since they can’t control their spending, they figured it would be easier to control your heat.


21 posted on 01/11/2008 10:44:34 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: BibChr
I'm feeling fairly vindicated these days.

Are you?

22 posted on 01/11/2008 10:52:20 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Sub-Driver

PG & E are already offering free of charge thermostats that can be regulated by them... not only NO! but HELL NO!... besides.. our central heating is out of whack.. since it doesn’t get that cold here and it would take mondo money to fix it, we haven’t had heat since the beginning of winter.. we just deal with it and don’t have heating bills now.


27 posted on 01/11/2008 2:15:15 PM PST by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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Or... they could build a few more power plants and offer tax incentives for people to do these kinds of things on their own.

Thank you NIMBY’s!


29 posted on 01/11/2008 4:16:48 PM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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The CEO of my company has commented on how great it would be if my utility could turn off a refrigerator or AC unit as needed throughout the day to shave peaks.

I did ask why he presumed it was better for the company to make these decisions rather than the homeowner.

He believes the utility has a roll in managing the energy boundary of the house...

Look for him to be in a ranking government post under a Clinton admin.


30 posted on 01/11/2008 7:44:44 PM PST by steveyp
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bttt


31 posted on 01/12/2008 2:13:44 AM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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There is nothing wrong with your thermostat. Do not attempt to adjust the temperature. We are controlling by transmission. If we wish to make it warmer, we will bring up the temperature. If we wish to make it colder, we will tune it to a chill. We will control the humidity. We will control the carbon dioxide. For the rest of your life, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat, there is nothing wrong with your thermostat. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Nanny Limits.


33 posted on 01/12/2008 7:33:15 AM PST by reg45
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