Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson
The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?
Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.
Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.
Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.
Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.
Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.
Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.
So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.
Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.
Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!
“Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.”
Good analysis. Makes sense to me.
If we can’t have Thompson, at least Huckabee is solid on the other issues. With the Border, a lot depends on popular pressure and public opinion. WHoever gets elected CAN be pressured to come over to our side, even if its through COngress. A LOT of Dems and independent voters are anti-illegal aliens.
What difference would it make to have Swartzeneggar or Bustamonte as California's Governor? S.B 777 and experience tells us not to vote for RINOs.
Perhaps the difference is in how long individuals are willing to keep compromising. As I see it, I didn't compromise in the last Presidential election as I think President Bush is a fine President. Of course he and I don't agree on everything and at the same time, I don't have access to all the information he has.
But, I won't compromise in the next election just as many Californian's didn't compromise in the last election for Governor. I'd rather make a stand than fall for anything. If it's G,R or M, I write my candidate in. I'm drawing a line in the sand.
FR was very instrumental in outing Rather. That helped Bush. But I was referring to the general articles posted, FR postings and FR polls here in FR not holding sway, per se, among the voting population. People make up their minds based on what they see and hear from candidates directly, or filtedered, through TV mainly, and other mass media.
...which is not to say that FR has no effect. Every reader is affected and the Lord only knows what impact and ramifications that has! (Hopefully, as consistently as possible for the good.)
I do think that there too much complaining and not enough exploration of solutions. Also MUCH too much crap slinging. In some ways, that’s just what happens in Internet forums, but I agree with your sentiments:
We need to promote — and not form circular firing squads.
(Regarding Huckabee: sometimes even the vast majority of FReepers can be wrong.)
BTTT a post that should be the last word.
touche’ I apologize.
Apology accepted. Thank you for being gracious. I apologize to you as well for my snarky remark.
I appreciate that, processing please hold. Have a great day! :)
You’re welcome. You have a great day as well, pay dirt. :)
Same here but flip Rudy and Huck - for the simple reason that I think Rudy will be a better protector against terrorism.
I agree completely.
The more I’m reading on Huck, the more I’m agreeing with you. I think the key will be how the WOT looks IF we have to make that decision. If everything is on the wind down, Huck’s social stances may be the deciding factor. If things are still ‘hot’, Rudy’s defense stand will be it. I hope we don’t have to worry about either.
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No, it isn't. It's doing what political forums do. Its members are discussing issues and strategy.
What you said.
hehehe
Yeah...I was taught...reel gud. : )
Hello.
lolol
: )
He's mean and he's crazy. I don't think he's reliable on the WOT either.
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