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My Fellow Evangelicals Blow It By Supporting Mike Huckabee
North Star Writers Group ^ | January 8, 2008 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 01/08/2008 5:56:29 AM PST by Invisigoth

Secular America looks at the rise of Mike Huckabee and fears the growing influence of evangelical Christians in the political process.

This evangelical Christian columnist fears it too, for exactly the opposite reason.

Huckabee’s win in the Iowa caucuses, and his sudden viability as a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, owes to one thing and one thing only. Large numbers of evangelical voters are looking for someone to represent their values, and Huckabee is the only candidate who seems to do so.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianity; election; evangelical; mikehuckabee; openbordershuck; proillegal; valuevoter
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To: tortdog
“Someone who doesn’t favor his faith above that of others.”

I am no Huckabee fan, but statement is pretty ridiculous.

Faith requires one to place a particular religious thought above another.

161 posted on 01/08/2008 8:58:00 AM PST by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: Captain Pike
“I have nothing against Christians or creationists. But there are millions of people out there who do, and it would be suicide for the Republican party to nominate someone that has this kind of background.”

As I have stated elsewhere I am no Huckabee fan.

However, we are stuck with Huckabee because the other top tier candidates are either pro-abortion, or people don’t necessarily trust them on the issue.

I hear people saying that the “Christians” are causing this problem. The truth is that people need to get on the Fred Thompson bandwagon, because he makes the social and fiscal conservatives happy.

162 posted on 01/08/2008 9:02:00 AM PST by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: All

Did Huck say he would close Gitmo and transfer the terrorist to the US proper where they would get a trial in regular federal court?


163 posted on 01/08/2008 9:02:21 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: Isara
What can we do with the second group?

Nothing can be done with either group until they have somewhere else to go- Rush's diatribe will have no impact.

My hope is that Hunter rises enough to be noticed, as his positions are what the Christians are looking for. I don't see any other way to stop the Huckabee train.

164 posted on 01/08/2008 9:02:22 AM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: VRWCmember

And based on my conversations with my relatives who attended his college, your characterization of my characterization of Falwell as utter hogwash is utter hogwash.


165 posted on 01/08/2008 9:03:22 AM PST by flowerplough (Thompson should be the next president and Reagan should be the next face on Mt. Rushmore)
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To: Invisigoth

Where’s the Huckabee Truth File? We need one. :(


166 posted on 01/08/2008 9:04:46 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Happy birthday Elvis!)
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To: Preachin'

“Faith requires one to place a particular religious thought above another.”

ONLY for themself. Faith should not require the faith of others. This is a sign of insecurity in your faith.


167 posted on 01/08/2008 9:06:30 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: tortdog

I don’t know which faith you practice, actually, I don’t care.

People flocked to this nation for religious freedom. It should stay that way. We do not need to agree with someone elses faith to live peacefully in this country. We can agree we want the best for all of us, and sticking to conservative values and principles should suit everyone well.

I have a problem with only one religion being in the position of POTUS. That is Islam. Their faith, law and politics are interwined, not to mention the fact that there are those within their faith that want us to convert or die.


168 posted on 01/08/2008 9:06:37 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Preachin'

Let me clarify. I will not vote for a man who places his faith above others in connection with the state.

Reportedly, Governor Huckabee pardoned criminals once they professed a belief in Christ. He felt that their soul had been cleansed. I believe that is a wrong standard for a governor to make. What if the man had professed he believed that Allah was the one and only true God, yet denied Christ as the Son of God?

I don’t want someone to discriminate based on religious beliefs via the government. Huckabee might not think that he does that, but he certainly shows evidence of favortism towards members of his faith.

That’s not right.


169 posted on 01/08/2008 9:07:35 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tobyhill

Ones passion for life, (that we all have here), does not mean all common sense and rational thought should be discarded.

Discernment and maturity are essential to our republic.


170 posted on 01/08/2008 9:07:50 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: flowerplough

“And based on my conversations with my relatives who attended his college, your characterization of my characterization of Falwell as utter hogwash is utter hogwash.”

Excellent post - a quadruple negative, or something. Very crafty. Good job.

I like your tagline also.


171 posted on 01/08/2008 9:09:06 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: All

Hucksters, What about Gitmo? You will be turning our armed forces into Law & Order detectives. Rules of evidence in a war. This man, huck, is nuts.


172 posted on 01/08/2008 9:11:54 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: Preachin'
However, we are stuck with Huckabee because the other top tier candidates are either pro-abortion, or people don’t necessarily trust them on the issue.

Then the Republicans are stuck with defeat.

people need to get on the Fred Thompson bandwagon, because he makes the social and fiscal conservatives happy

If that were true, then he would be leading. He isn't, because the practical Republicans don't think he can win in November either.

The nomination process should, first and foremost, nominate someone who can win. No Republican president can stray far from the base on strong party issues. Note how Bush got slappped down on immigration, even though he ran on "comprehensive immigration reform" in 2000.

In practical terms, not a single Republican candidate running will damage efforts to halt abortion, because that work must be done at the grass roots anyway. What a Republican candidate thinks on the issue won't matter.

However, a Democrat will have to please an entirely different base, will nominate judges from an entirely different pool, and will bring in an entirely different set of political appointees.

Party is far more important than a candidates particular opinions, and the Republican party is anti-abortion. Electing a Republican, any of them, will help the anti-abortion cause. Electing a Democrat will hurt it. Winning in November is more important than a particular candidates positions on issues.

173 posted on 01/08/2008 9:20:25 AM PST by Captain Pike
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To: tortdog

I agree entirely with your post, except that maybe there is an isolated case where a governor met a convict and heard his appeal face to face, but never for a murderer. I could consider a transfer of a prisoner from the death penalty to life without parole, but only in the event that he impresses me that he had a complete change of heart, and I’m hard to please in that area.


174 posted on 01/08/2008 9:21:20 AM PST by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Did you take your meds today?

I’m an evangelical and there is no way I would vote for Huckster and I will communicate that agressively to all Christians and the reasons why....Huckster is not what he’s trying to appear to be....

Huckster is head and shoulders below FRed in almost every issue that counts.

Read the facts FRiend


175 posted on 01/08/2008 9:27:03 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: indylindy

But thats the whole reason with identity politics, so popular on the left. For example, today Gloria Steinham has an article saying that if you don’t vote for Hillary, you are a sexist. Same thing applies to Huckabee supporters...


176 posted on 01/08/2008 9:29:33 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Jibaholic
Us evangelicals are taking over the party, you can join us or the Democrats.

You are delusional. Evangelicals are not taking over the party, they are intent on destroying the party. They sit out elections or oppose candidates because they are not sufficiently anti-abortion or not anti-gay enough. They lost their "moral majority" years ago, and haven't gotten over it yet. They are like parasites that overeat the host until the host dies, then the parasites either die themselves or move to another host. Maybe you could do us a favor and move to another host?

177 posted on 01/08/2008 9:30:02 AM PST by webheart
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To: CommerceComet

Exactly. The World Council of Churches has been a flaming left-of-left-wing group since its inception.


178 posted on 01/08/2008 9:36:45 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Captain Pike
I agree, and assume that it is RG and MR being dismissed as viable for the VV, strange since RG has campaigned for prolife Republicans since 98, (right here in my state), he obviously is not campaigning to destroy the Republican platform, and has never even intimated such.

Romney too has no expressed no desires, ideologies or activism on the changing the platform. Why would they want to?

UNLIKE Huck who has CAMPAIGNED and VOWED to change the Republican party to a liberally economic party.

179 posted on 01/08/2008 9:38:16 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Invisigoth

Large numbers of evangelical voters are looking for someone to represent their values, and Huckabee is the only candidate who seems to do so.
***Duncan Hunter represents their values. He’s Pro-life, evangelical, and a stalwart conservative.


180 posted on 01/08/2008 9:40:35 AM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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