SOURCES: NBC And Hollywood Foreign Press Association Cancel Televised Golden Globes

LA Weekly ^ | 1/7/08 | Nikki Finke

[BurbankKarl]

The Hollywood writers strike can now claim its first awards show casualty. The latest I'm hearing from my sources as of a few minutes ago is that NBC will not be televising the Golden Globes as planned on January 13th. Insiders tell me also that the entire event, even if it were held untelevised, will be cancelled. And the Hollywood Foreign Press Association instead will merely make an announcement of the winners. I've not yet received any official confirmation of any of this. But insiders tell me that NBC Universal topper Jeff Zucker and the Hollywood Foreign Press Association which bestows the Golden Globes made the decision together.

[DoughtyOne]

Ditto. Good call. ;-)

[Portnoy]

I’m going into some withdrawls over the writers strike. I anm very particular about what I watch.

I’ll miss 24 this year and half a season of The Office and Heroes.

Battlestar Galactica will have a shortened season, as well as LOST.

I picked a good year to delve into the second half of The History of Middle Earth.

[RabidBartender]

I think it’s the subject matter of the movies that are nominated and win, particularly in recent years. It’s as if they are nominated because of the topic, not because of the quality of the movie (see: Erin Brockovich, Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby, Brokeback Mountain, Good Night Good Luck, Munich, The Full Monty, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love, The English Patient, etc.).

Actually, looking back at the list of winners, almost every movie that won from 1981-1995 would make my list of all time favorites. Something occurred in 1996 that made them start nominating political issues.

[DoughtyOne]

I have a real aversion to any of the awards programs.

If you must give awards, find some parents who work long hours, have a hard time making ends meet, are very supportive of their children, and do their best to instill good values in them.

I could come up with ten categories for those awards in a few minutes. And I’d watch.

Home schooling, church attendence...

How about a category for dads who pay child support for a decade or more and get jerked every which way but loose, during the process?

Shine the shoes of some guy or gal who just made $20 million for six months worth of work? Nah. Thanks but no thanks.

[Borges]

If I were to waste my time doing so, I could probably come up with ten to twenty such violations given time. I’m not going to bother.

Only ten to twenty out of the roughtly 1000 or so Oscars that have been given out?

How many awards programs go to people who are the backbone of our society? If anything those people are slandered at every opportunity, and the media is generally the one doing it.

The Oscars aren't the Media. The critics have their own awards.

Good values, Christian ethic... the Oscars have nothing to offer the best our society, other than to destroy the values they cherish.

The Arts at their best are among the best in our society.

[ontap]

the Oscars have credibility.

Of course they do, who could ever forget the 2006 Song of the year"It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp"!!!

[Borges]

‘American Beauty’ was an exception that proves the rule. One of the worst to ever win. What was wrong with Shakespeare in Love? ‘The English Patient’ was a throwback to the romantic David Lean-style fare that usually won back in the day. None of those other films won.

[Borges]

That song was a key part of the narrative of film it was from which is a criteria. A lot of people like Hip Hop. I don’t but that’s neither here nor there. Besides most of the songs that win are sappy Celine Dion style ballads or songs from Disney movies. The Best Song Category is a throwback to a day when musicals were very common and songs from them were a big part of pop music culture.

[ontap]

And they say you can’t put lipstick on a pig!!!!!

[DoughtyOne]

The Arts at their best are among the best in our society.

I won't make a blanket statement about all the arts, but you are not seeing the movies I am if you think this segment of the arts is among the best our nation has to offer.

You can't even take a child to a children's movie any longer due to the adult material that is inserted for the hell of it.  Every once in a while you can, but you have to go see the movie yourself first, just to make sure.

As for ten to twenty, I could find fifty to one hundred (and probably hundreds) if I could review the Oscar program tape over the last five years.  The liberal agenda is so prevalent that it's simply silly to even discuss the issue with someone who can't see it.

Take care.

[Borges]

There’s a strong contingent of Hip Hop loving Freepers though. Was ‘It’s Hard Out There For a Pimp’ a good example of the genre?

[ontap]

There’s a strong contingent of Hip Hop loving Freepers though. Was ‘It’s Hard Out There For a Pimp’ a good example of the genre?

[Borges]

re Children’s films: Disney films from the 30s and 40s had all sorts of disturbring subtexts. You still haven’t provided any examples, except Moore, or explained how some actor making a political speech once ever however-long invalidates the importance of movies as a major part of American culture. I see tons of movies. There's no such thing as morally neutral Art. Never has been. If you want to see left wing movies check out Depression era films. It's much less so today then it used to be.

[Borges]

see for yourself...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947769/posts

[ConfusedAndLovingIt]

Editing is important! It’s the one aspect of movies that’s new and not derived from theater. It’s like visual music and I love seeing it done well.

That's a good point. I know just enough about editing to have opinion, but not enough to have an informed opinion. I like to make fun of bad editing when watching movies (which just annoys my family). Good editing is more difficult to spot, though, because it doesn't draw attention to itself - it just makes the movie better.

I heard an actual movie editor say something interesting once. He said that it is very difficult to judge someone else's editing unless you've seen the original clips they had to work with. You don't know if they made a mediocre director look better, or made a genius look worse.

[Borges]

They say that, early on, Woody Allen bordered on incompetent as a director and his 1970s films were saved from incoherence by Ace film editor Ralph Rosenblum.

[DoughtyOne]

re Children’s films: Disney films from the 30s and 40s had all sorts of disturbring subtexts.

LOL, you're becoming even more rediculous.

You still haven’t provided any examples, except Moore, or explained how some actor making a political speech once ever however-long invalidates the importance of movies as a major part of American culture.

I addressed the fact that I wasn't going to waste my time digging up examples for you.  Now you're lamenting the fact that I haven't researched examples for you.

Why would I?  Even if I did you wouldn't acknowledge the problem.  Example: I mentioned the problem with movies aimed at young kids these days, and you blew it off with some insipid remark about the films made in the 30s and 40s.

I see tons of movies.

Well, you're certainly not seeing them with a critical eye, and that goes double or triple for the Academy Awards program.

There's no such thing as morally neutral Art. Never has been. If you want to see left wing movies check out Depression era films. It's much less so today then it used to be.

I expect there to be cutting edge art.  I do not expect the overwhelming majority of it aimed at destroying our values, national allegience and wartime efforts.

[skr]

I won’t miss the show, but I’m sorry for all the people who need the work in order to support their families.

[DesScorp]

How cool would it be to cancel the Oscars, and discover that no one gave a rats ass anyway? That no one missed it?

[Borges]

When Leni Refenstahl visited the U.S. in the mid 1920s Walt Disney was the only studio head who would see her. Her influence is all over something like Bambi which was alsois a pioneering environmentalist film.

'overwhelming majority'? The great majority of films made don't even mention our wartime efforts and the small minority of those that do generally don't win Oscars. As for values, any book/movie is going to reflect the values of its maker. If you're expecting all artists to be devout Christians keep waiting. That's never been the case. And 'Hollyweird is Satanic' rhetoric is what's preventing many good people from going into filmmaking.