Posted on 01/07/2008 10:46:22 AM PST by SubGeniusX
Tech Ping
So it is "free use for customers inside the building"? What about the patio? But the curb is off limits?
Like “free” music, man.................../s
All anyone or bsuness has to do is password protect the access point. Those providing access as a come on can chnage the password daily and have it printed on the reciept.
It ain’t hard.
The below is not true
I was walking by a bar once and saw a football game on the television inside. The closed caption was on so I didn’t need the sound. I stood there and watched the tele through the window for about five minutes.
Next thing I knew there was a swat team, police helicopters, and FBI suits arresting me for stealing television viewing without going into the bar.
Same thing. If the bar didn’t want people to watch they should have boarded or painted the windows so people outside can’t see inside. If people don’t want their WiFi leached they need to close access.
People are getting arrested for the stupidest shit these days.
Gouge away,
You can gouge away
Gouge away
All day, if you want too.
Everything is illegal unless expressly permitted.
Dennis is a card........
Utter rubbish!
A broadcast radio or TV signal is transmitted for free for all to RECEIVE. A WiFi connection is two way connection of limited bandwidth and is being paid for by someone else. The comparison ends from the moment that you TRANSMIT a request on that link and then consume some of the limited bandwidth with your transmissions and responses thereby affecting performance for the owner of the link.
BTW, go to the UK and receive a TV signal without paying for a TV licence and see if they don't prosecute you for theft
“That which is not forbidden is permitted”
It is a bit of a hassle to re-install or add to a new computer 'cause you have to look up and enter a few rows of hex$ code, but when it's done, it's safe. From then on anyone trying to access your wi-fi will need those exact hex$ digits or they are out.
It appears that a lot of people are too lazy to take advantage of this feature.
If I’m using WiFi and my connection is slowed because of the thieves, I’m not getting the performance I paid for, the thieves are getting that performance.
I keep my personal WiFi encrypted and protected and only on when I need it, so it’s not that big a deal. I up/download giant chunks of instrument data, so speed is important.
But if you are using your own setup that’s not protected, notice how slooow it gets sometimes (like when someone is downloading a movie, a CD-load of music, or a block of pictures in RAR compression.
The article seems to feel that if you leave your front door accidentally unlocked, you should not complain when your stuff is stolen.
Plus, what IP address is seen? The router, right? Not the laptop or computer node, correct me if I'm wrong on this. If it is the wireless router that is "seen" as the IP address, who gets the responsibility for illegal actions, like downloading illegal music or pictures?
This happens on my iPhone often. Our next door neighbor, apparently, uses a WiFi and when I access Safari on my iPhone, it asks if I wish to route through ***’s WiFi.
Any of our forum lawyers know if this is a crime in the U.S.?
If you don’t password protect, then it’s not really stealing.
In theory, having another computer on with you takes bandwidth and slows access. In practice, I have what amounts to an internet cafe in my house that my kids use, bringing their laptops over, and I’ve never noticed any difference.
Ah, memories of three years ago when my son and I watched the NCAA hoops title game through the window of bar in Chapel Hill. You had to have arrived by lunch time to have claimed a seat inside for the 9:00pm game.
Years ago, there was a public ad campaign admonishing people not to leave the keys in their cars ignition. “Help keep a boy from going bad” or something like that. In those days there were still plenty of people who knew what’s what, and the outcry caused the ads to be pulled.
Not anymore. Everything is turned on its head.
That password had better be encrypted, or else it would be totally useless. At home I use WPA/PSK and it seems pretty solid. The older 128 bit WEP is a joke because the key can be broken in a matter of minutes, especially using the wireless 'G' standard that has higher throughput.
what IP address is seen? The router, right?
quite right.
This is true IMO because by default most Windows machines will automatically connect when it gets in range of an open network. No user interaction is needed. How can one steal something they may not even know they have?
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