Lima on edge after police kill woman, wound 1-year-old child in drug raid

ToledoBlade.Com ^ | Jan 6,2008 | By IGNAZIO MESSINA and ERICA BLAKE

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LIMA, Ohio — Darla Jennings walked through the streets of south Lima last night sobbing as hundreds of people behind her called for justice after the shooting of her daughter, who was killed by police as she held her baby. Tarika Wilson, 26, was shot and her 1-year-old son was wounded when Lima police conducted a drug raid on their home Friday night, prompting members of the black community to organize a candlelight vigil and demand answers from police. "They shot my daughter and her baby," Ms. Jennings said through tears while being consoled by other family members.

[When do we get liberated?]

It’s a real number all right, just after 89,999 and just before 90,001

[Dead Corpse]

One fact that has been established is that it was a lawful warrant and drugs were recovered.

How could it be a "lawful" warrant if the law used to authorize it violates the Constitution?

Yes, yes... I know. The government justifying it's own existence and expansion of power via the drug war told you it was "legal". That must make you feel better at night.

Ever here of a place called "Nuremberg"? Bunch of guys just following orders had to explain themselves there too...

[eleni121]

nothing related to drug dealing warrants these type of raids much in the same way that bouncing a large check doesn’t warrant a raid on your home to find the checkbook.

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Well we disagree. Bouncing a check is a crime but does not reach the level of seriousness that drug dealing does.

Failure to discern the difference reveals a lack of judgment...and experience.

[eleni121]

The moral of this story is avoid people who sell drugs illegally.

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Better yet: TURN THEM IN!

[arthurus]

Then there is no excuse at all. The cop who pulled that particular trigger is a murderer.

[Dead Corpse]

Bouncing a check is a crime but does not reach the level of seriousness that drug Firearms dealing does.

Same arguments used to go after drug dealers are being used against gun owners too. Are you as sanguine about that? It's the same extra-Constitutional garbage being used in both instances.

You can try and argue they aren't the same, but you'll only make yourself look silly. You claim to want a restored Republic. Getting the government djinni back into the bottle is the biggest step.

[Steamburg]

I’ve read the all the vitriolic, but I haven’t seen the facts. My real concern is that no one here has expressed any concern over the voting decisions that have led to electing the people who made the laws and chose the people they wanted to enforce them. That being said, I think we would all do better to spend less time making allegations without benefit of facts and more time deciding who we want to represent our interests at every level of government.

[Dead Corpse]

Better yet: TURN THEM IN!

Be a good little Brownshirt. Report unauthorized activity for the good of the Fatherland...

[MichiganWoodsman]

Well we disagree. Bouncing a check is a crime but does not reach the level of seriousness that drug dealing does.

Failure to discern the difference reveals a lack of judgment...and experience.

You're right, I won't hold your lack of judgment and lack of experience against you. Bouncing a check has a victim attached; drug users willingly buy drugs to put into their own bodies thus making it a victimless crime. In Lima, Ohio, a woman is dead and an infant is shot and is permanently disfigured because the nanny government thought it wise to do a paramilitary attack for a victimless crime.

[coloradan]

The fact the SWAT thugs went in and killed a few people doesn’t prove anyone was dealing. Or have you forgotten about the presumption of innocence, by any chance? (A lot more people possess than deal, so the fact drugs were found doesn’t prove dealing. Come to think of it, cops aren’t beyond planting drugs on people, either.)

[When do we get liberated?]

I have a better idea. Outlaw all prescription medications, beer, cigarettes and sex (releases dopamine in the brain. Government must control that) Then have random home raids just to check and make sure nobody has ever done anything that gets them high. Then we will live in a perfect world.
Actually, I think people who bounce checks and do not make them good in a reasonable period of time, as the law allows, do far more harm to others than any substance found in that home.

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I found another link here: Police shoot woman, 1-year-old in northwestern Ohio drug raid

From the Article:

"Tania Wilson said she and her sister had planned to start a college course Monday to study business, and that Tarika Wilson hoped to make a better life for herself and her six children — ages 1 to 8 — who she said were all in the home during the raid.

She said Tarika Wilson was upstairs with her children helping them clean their bedrooms when the home was raided. She said a niece told her the mother was holding her son and fell over him when she was shot."

If this is true it does not look good for the raid.

[When do we get liberated?]

see 148

[eleni121]

Same arguments used to go after drug dealers are being used against gun owners too

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Wow ——I must have missed that.

Where is the Amendment to the US Constitution guranteeing my right to crack cocaine?

Tell me...I really want to know.

[Jaidyn]

Since a death occurred, the cops are silent until BCI gets finished. There were two pitbulls, and crack and pot was found. Both have long histories of drugs, and both have been in prison for trafficking. I know some of those on PACE, and they are good guys. I have no idea what when on inside. Go to limaohio.com/forum for all the information available if you want.

[eleni121]

Bounced check = Crack cocaine dealing.

This is the level to which the drug legalizers have sunk.

Very sad...and the kind of thinking that actually poses a danger to our nation.

[eleni121]

Be a good little Brownshirt. Report unauthorized activity for the good of the Fatherland...

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When I see someone geting beaten or robbed or worse like selling crack to kids I try to intervene. I do that by calling the cops..and if there is no time I take action myself.

Go ahead: Call me a brownshirt. But drape me in the US flag, bozo.

[PLMerite]

“Oops.”

I didn’t see anything in the article about anyone resisting arrest or raising a weapon to the police. They did manage to shoot two dogs a woman and a baby, however.

Oops.

You’d think cops who could plan a nighttime dynamic entry raid could snag a stupid crackhead off the street, wouldn’t you?

[When do we get liberated?]

Is there a constitutional right to posses pork? What about vegtables? We should do raids to recover these items as well. Your arguement is ridiculous. Find me the constitutional right for the goverment to pursue any consumable

[microgood]

Where is the Amendment to the US Constitution guranteeing my right to crack cocaine?

Actually the 10th Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

There is no Federal right to conduct a drug war because it is not specifically called out in the Constitution. It is done under the "Commerce Clause" and came about after Roosevelt castrated the Supreme Court. Now they are just poodles of Congress and the Executive and serve no legitimate purpose since they abandoned the Constitution.

This does not prevent state from passing laws against cocaine but the Federal Drug War is completely unconstitutional since that power is not enumerated in the Constitution.

Nowadays neither liberals nor conservatives have any respect for the Constitution, but I guarantee that when they right the epithat of this once great country the Drug War will be one of the main reasons we went from freedom to tyranny.