Lima on edge after police kill woman, wound 1-year-old child in drug raid

ToledoBlade.Com ^ | Jan 6,2008 | By IGNAZIO MESSINA and ERICA BLAKE

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LIMA, Ohio — Darla Jennings walked through the streets of south Lima last night sobbing as hundreds of people behind her called for justice after the shooting of her daughter, who was killed by police as she held her baby. Tarika Wilson, 26, was shot and her 1-year-old son was wounded when Lima police conducted a drug raid on their home Friday night, prompting members of the black community to organize a candlelight vigil and demand answers from police. "They shot my daughter and her baby," Ms. Jennings said through tears while being consoled by other family members.

[babygene]

:Great there pal, let’s just have moms allow crack into their homes with loads of babies. This mom wasn’t doing her job which is to provide for and protect her many babies.”

LIKE I SAID, If the authorities cant keep drugs out of prison, why do we expect a mom to be able to keep them out of her house? As**ole!

[Joe Boucher]

She is to blame for allowing illegal drugs in to her home which brought the cops. Did she deserve to die? I doubt it but we don’t know the facts other then that.

[MichiganWoodsman]

Speaking of money. Do you know what’s ironic. You can’t beg some of these localities to enforce immigration law because they say it’s a federal matter. But, you throw the incentive of forfeiture laws and you get every agency in the nation, including the small town of Lima (my sister lives in Defiance, right next to Lima and it’s nothing but corn fields for miles and miles in this part of Ohio), acquiring paramilitary gear and doing drug raids.

[Dead Corpse]

1980? 2003? Common dreams? Are you smoking crack now?

[mad_as_he$$]

Just think of the outcry if this had happened in Iraq. The MSM just sucks.

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Excuse me, but I'd like to see some statistics supporting your 'facts' on these raids because, quite frankly, they are unbelievable.

Just FYI, the most extensive piece of research done on SWAT teams to date was written by a libertarian named Radley Balko. The good thing about him, though, is that he backs his information up with solid facts, and this piece of research is being used by state and federal governments all over the country. On the bad side, it is rather long and also quite scary:

Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America

[CGTRWK]

Actually, there'd be many fewer prisoners in this country if plea bargaining was abolished. That way the criminals could face the REAL sentences for their crimes, rather than those winkydink sentences for pot possession.

Plea bargaining is a tool of the prosecution, not the criminal defendant. Accepting a deal is always at the prosecution's discretion.

That the 5 (or often as not, 15) seperate felony charge 'real sentence' is invariably many times more severe than what is ultimately plead isn't the criminal getting away with something. The prosecutor has no intention of getting that sentence, or evidence to make most or even many of the charges stick. He just wants to intimidate the accused out of requesting an expensive trial - and 19 times in 20 it works.

[muawiyah]

Why do I get the feeling you are upset that the US Marshalls didn't kill that kid in DC (see the thread I refered you to).

Bet you also sided with the cops in that New York City thing where the bridegroom was shot dead.

No doubt there others. Sorry for mistaking you for an pot head ~ you're just an embittered LEO, or something.

You really will be better off once you decide which side you are on.

[robertpaulsen]

22%.

Now, your turn. Where's your link to your statistics showing that most in prison are there because of drug charges?

[Wilhelm Tell]

We can gun them down or gas them anytime we want, because it's for their own good!

Imagine when the Democrats get their wish and there is a whole laundry list of new victimless crimes for which to use deadly force against hapless citizens: Imagine an Amerika where guns are banned, it is illegal to own tobacco, it is a crime to own an incadescent light bulb, refined sugar is banned, politically incorrect literature is banned and upon any suspicion of an infraction the Swatzis will storm your door with guns blazing. This is more of the "change" that the left promises us -- death squads to kill us for our own good.

[Joe Boucher]

You are correct about Koresh and most probably the guy responsible for the dope in this instance could have been picked up outside the home.
My point is that as a mom this woman should not have allowed drugs in to the home.
The cops arrived and we don’t know the rest of the facts yet.
Had this woman done her job which is to protect the kids and provide for them this wouldn’t have happened.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

Joe, I'm sick of every time you post you include your take that the mother failed as a Mom because there were drugs in the house with children.

It's old already.

What's the possibility that the SWAT team planted the dope after the failed raid where they suddenly discover they shot a mom with babe in arms and how the h*ll is THAT going to play out, police union or not.

You have your boots strapped to tight tonight, pal.

[darkangel82]

Many on FR wish for that very thing, unfortunately.

[muawiyah]

Then the guy's out in 5 instead of 25, and he becomes a repeat criminal ~

We need to deter these guys before they start their criminal careers. Sending the guys we catch away for all their crimes would be a good start that would send a signal to the younger ones. Also free up the police to bust the real criminals ~ the speeders on the Beltway!

[Joe Boucher]

I’m not a fan of swat teams coming out of our wazoos, but I generally give the benefit of doubt to cops.

[Jaidyn]

That's got to be the busiest SWAT team in the nation, for a 40,000 member community. Excuse me, but I'd like to see some statistics supporting your 'facts' on these raids because, quite frankly, they are unbelievable.

I got the number from Chief Garlock, who stated it in his press conference last night. Am looking for the transcript. And, it's not such a large number. Lima is crime ridden, and SWAT has been around for a while.

[eleni121]

Those scum involved in the deadly narcotics trade need to know that the Law will prevail.

[MichiganWoodsman]

Lima has a bad drug reputation, which it deserves. And, we need a SWAT team because of the gangs.

My sister lives in Defiance, and my twin and fellow Freeper - NCKerr, just moved from Defiance six months ago. I spent months in the Defiance/Lima area this summer due to work, so I know Allen and Defiance Counties fairly well. Lima is not big enough to warrant having a SWAT team and it isn't that bad of a town. And, Toledo isn't that close; 80 miles of corn fields separate Toledo from Lima. This story is ridiculous on all fronts.

[muawiyah]

Speaking of libel and slander, you really shouldn't have opened that door by saying: "Anything else you'd like to make illegal carrying an "instant" death sentence without trial?"

As you know I never advocate instant death sentences without trial.

So why don't you just "buzz" off and find another thread to argue your theory of the equality of the USA and the old USSR under Joe Stalin.

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I never advocated her killing. What I said was she is responsible.

Actually the ultimate responsibility for all of this are those that support drug prohibition.

Government created the gangs and violence when they outlawed drugs and they knew this outcome was as inevitable as the sun rising every day. The names of the gangs are different than during alcohol prohibition, but little else is.